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AngryLittleAlchemist on 11 February 2018
quickrick said:

nintendo own chart in the briefing, to jan 21, lmao how much times are you gonna be owned, and tell people to take a seat  

 

Wow, you might actually be right. Before you were making somewhat faulty comparisons and using circumstantial evidence. But why would they include these graphics if they were only talking about through December? If you end up being right then I apologize. Still, the one thing lingering on my mind is how odd of a comparison the investors and Nintendo made .... 

I guess it's good to keep an open mind in these kind of instances, which is what I'm trying to do. Thanks for the good discussion Quickrick, no bullshit I mean it.



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newwil7l on 11 February 2018
quickrick said:

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xMetroid said:
I still haven't seen the "as of now" that you are talking about. Which would also be really weird from someone in Marketing using that word considering they don't have the numbers as of 'now'.. they can't track numbers as easily you know.

The number now exceeds 13 million, only has one meaning.

 

We all know what "now" means what you don't seem to get is the "exceeds" part.

 

For America they said Switch had surpassed 4.8 million and it turned out to b 4.88 million.



OTBWY on 11 February 2018
quickrick said:
OTBWY said:

This was a tough read.

Nintendo simply expanded on the shipped numbers of the OCT-DEC report. Nothing more. It's not some wacky conspiracy as you're suggesting. The last briefing was also expanded upon like last time, with shipped and sold-through. Stay in that seat.

nintendo own chart in the briefing, to jan 21, lmao how much times are you gonna be owned, and tell people to take a seat  

 

This is getting stupid. These charts, together with the European and Japanese one, suggest a total of 12,5m, which contradict their own saying. Besides the fact that no single hard number is given here about the exact date as of now (since most data is from OCT-DEC) it doesn't even account other regions as a bonus. I think we can safely say that the charts mean nothing and nice try. Nintendo released data from OCT-DEC, that data was what was addressed in the briefing, nothing more. No extra 21 days for your convenience. Now firmly stay on that seat.



Latest as in context of last sell through numbers, and excluding other regions too as a little bonus.

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Keybladewielder on 11 February 2018

Oh wow the Switch already at 14 million 



quickrick on 11 February 2018
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
quickrick said:

nintendo own chart in the briefing, to jan 21, lmao how much times are you gonna be owned, and tell people to take a seat  

 

Wow, you might actually be right. Before you were making somewhat faulty comparisons and using circumstantial evidence. But why would they include these graphics if they were only talking about through December? If you end up being right then I apologize. Still, the one thing lingering on my mind is how odd of a comparison the investors and Nintendo made .... 

I guess it's good to keep an open mind in these kind of instances, which is what I'm trying to do. 

well like before 99% of the time, a company announces sell through numbers they will be recent, the fact that nintendo said 13 million  Now is not circumstantial, now only has one meaning, like i said many times.



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AJNShelton on 11 February 2018
quickrick said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Wow, you might actually be right. Before you were making somewhat faulty comparisons and using circumstantial evidence. But why would they include these graphics if they were only talking about through December? If you end up being right then I apologize. Still, the one thing lingering on my mind is how odd of a comparison the investors and Nintendo made .... 

I guess it's good to keep an open mind in these kind of instances, which is what I'm trying to do. 

well like before 99% of the time, a company announces sell through numbers they will be recent, the fact that nintendo said 13 million  Now is not circumstantial, now only has one meaning, like i said many times.

What about the meaning of "exceeds" then ?

 

PS: And by the way, that's the only good use of "then"



OTBWY on 11 February 2018

Anyway, 14 million sold through woooohoooo!



OTBWY on 11 February 2018
quickrick said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Wow, you might actually be right. Before you were making somewhat faulty comparisons and using circumstantial evidence. But why would they include these graphics if they were only talking about through December? If you end up being right then I apologize. Still, the one thing lingering on my mind is how odd of a comparison the investors and Nintendo made .... 

I guess it's good to keep an open mind in these kind of instances, which is what I'm trying to do. 

well like before 99% of the time, a company announces sell through numbers they will be recent, the fact that nintendo said 13 million  Now is not circumstantial, now only has one meaning, like i said many times.



Now exceeds. The results for the first holiday right after that. Context matters.



quickrick on 11 February 2018
OTBWY said:
quickrick said:

nintendo own chart in the briefing, to jan 21, lmao how much times are you gonna be owned, and tell people to take a seat  

 

This is getting stupid. These charts, together with the European and Japanese one, suggest a total of 12,5m, which contradict their own saying. Besides the fact that no single hard number is given here about the exact date as of now (since most data is from OCT-DEC) it doesn't even account other regions as a bonus. I think we can safely say that the charts mean nothing and nice try. Nintendo released data from OCT-DEC, that data was what was addressed in the briefing, nothing more. No extra 21 days for your convenience. Now firmly stay on that seat.



Latest as in context of last sell through numbers, and excluding other regions too as a little bonus.

expected response from, most unreasonable poster here really. you ignore the fact that nintedo shared 7 million units sold through and mario sales, which were out side of the  Q2 briefing period, you ignore the charts which nintedo uses in the Q3 BRIEFING  period, you ignore that nintendo uses NOW exceeds 13 million, which only has only was one meaning, really your argument is nintendo won't report numbers outside OCT-DEC period, which they have. now only has one meaning if it was as of the dec 31 nintedo would have said so, there is no context for the word now it only means now.



AngryLittleAlchemist on 11 February 2018
quickrick said:

well like before 99% of the time, a company announces sell through numbers they will be recent, the fact that nintendo said 13 million  Now is not circumstantial, now only has one meaning, like i said many times.

But that's the problem, you focused on wording so many times that it worked against you.

You say now only has one meaning, but in the context of that paragraph they literally put it in the context of holiday sales

i'm sure Nintendo isn't purposely using obtuse language, but using language to win an argument on an IR report is iffy especially if it's from Nintendo...

I still don't think you're right per say, we just don't know for sure because the information is clashing