Again, Im willing to consider LA Noire is not well optimized. Atleast on the CPU side. But its also not really 1080p like some claim.

Doom has better effects, while BF4 has larger more detailed enviornments, higher resolution, just more happening in general. Honestly, I didnt find Doom technically impressive but has nice assets and art direction.

Your thoughts on Ryse as a game are not important. The point is it was a great looking game for a year one game, still looks good. Also, not being 1080p is par for the course given the specs. Some of the dips were addressed in patches and were just in some spots. I bet a dynamic resolution would have really helped that game perform better and look sharper in low stress areas.

I think you mean Dead Rising 3, not 4. Not a great looking game per se, but I didnt mention it. I'm pointing out the 1st year games that do look good. I disagree though, Dead Rising 3 has higher quality assets than Doom on Switch, better textures, higher resolution, etc. Apples and oranges though.

Again, Im pointing out impressive looking year one games. Sunset Overdrive deserves a mention and it still looks good.

Destiny was designed to scale well. With that said, it does look good for that hardware but not nearly as polished as 8th gen.

Heh, FH2 on 360 is not the same game per se. The 360 version was built on the 7th gen Forza engine, while the X1 version was built on the new engine used in Forza 5. Its actually kinda interesting, they basically rebuilt the game on the old engine instead porting the game. Kinda like how Dead Rising was ported to Wii, but not as poorly. So the 360 version has different cars, the world has some differences and less open areas to explore, tracks vary due to world differences, no dynamic weather like rain, etc. They did a good job, its an impressive 360 game, but not really same game. Forza Horizon games have day/night cycles, but the shadows moving can be kinda jarring. Look up some DF videos if youre curious.

No, it doesn't run fine on Xbox 360 also, it doesn't run fine even on PS3, but DF itself said that PS3 version was definitive version of game. But you keep ignoring fact that Switch is weaker than 8th gen consoles so Its hard to totally brute port of something thats on first place made for one specific hardware in mind, in that case it's obvious you want have best results. PS3/360 definatly had better optimisation, like I wrote before Rockstar released LA Noire on PS3/360 they already were working several years on PS3/360 hardware and released couple games already, also they have similar architecture, while this is of their 1st year Switch game and totally different architecture. So with all that on mind there is nothing beacuse its obvious with port like that you want have best results.

Doom has much more modern effects than BF4 on PS3/360.

There were some good looking games (Switch have them also), but you do realise that most of 1st year XB1 games were 720-900p games especially when we talk about 3rd party games!?

Killzone: SF looks great, but how much better look games like Uncharted 4 or Horizon Zero Dawn!?

Switch also has some great looking games in 1st year, for instance ARMS and Mario Rabbids are great looking game also, but of course that difference will be smaller compared to XB1/PS4 when Switch noticeable weaker than those consoles. Like I wrote, when you have console that runs game from 720p (PS3/360 version of games) to 1080p with better visuals or better frame rate, it's obvious we don't talking only about more polish, we talking about noticeable or solid difrence, not about just more polished games.

It's possible right now, all it takes is to put the extra processing power in the dock. I don't expect Sony to do that though, portables are not really their market, I would have hoped that Nintendo would have done that with the Switch, you know for those who care to have a TRUE hybrid that has real console power when used in docked mode.

Now if you mean all the power inside the portable part of the system then not for a long time. So much power would make the thing heat up way too much with current technology. The Switch despite its weakness of power (from a home system point of view) is already powerful enough to heat up fairly strong from what I hear so don't expect PS4 Pro power in a portable any time soon.

I think you are right.  It would either be digital or they would have to come up with a new format like cartridges (which I think Sony is loathe to do).  They could technically use disks, but then the device would be even bigger than the Switch.

Making hardware is Foxconn's specialty. Why exactly shoud they give Sony better prices than Microsoft or Nintendo for the same hardware?

If you can figure out why the people in this video are clapping, then you will know the answer to your question.

Sorry, the retail price doesn't tell us anything about their manufacturing costs.

The retail price is what this entire thread is about.  Sony would have no problems getting to a $400 price point for a hybrid.  That is my point.

Your points were that the same hardware will cost Sony less than Microsoft or Nintendo in manufacturing costs AND that Sony has no reservations about selling their hardware at a loss.

I agree to the second point but not to the first point.

Ok, I am going to explain this the best I can and hope you are asking sincerely.  (Some people like to argue for the sake of arguing, and I am not really down with that.)

Sony is an electronics giant, and they have a huge vertical monopoly.  This means that they own certain things that give them an advantage.  For example they own the Blue Ray format which means they can make anything with a Blue Ray drive cheaper than any other company.  In fact, they own so much, I could not even begin to tell you everything they own.  (That is why arguing the details of stuff like this is kind of dumb.)

It should not be surprising that large corporations like the big 3 console makers have resources, capital, that give them advantages.  Sony has the most advantages with hardware.  Microsoft has the most advantages with making software like an online service or operating system.  Nintendo has the most advantages with pairing unique hardware with their games.  This really just has to do with understanding how capitalism, and specifically capital, works.

So if you were asking sincerely, then this is the best answer I can give.  If you want to argue this stuff, then I'm done, because that is not why I'm here.  Some people on the internet can argue that the Sun is blue, and of course you cannot really argue with someone like that.  I hope you are not one of those people.