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quickrick said:
peachbuggy said:

I was going by the numbers on here. I had no idea they would be so out of sync. I notice you are moving the goalposts again. It's been explained to you that Smash 4 was a port, therefore hurting sales, possibly for both 3ds and Wii u versions. As for your predictions. The NPD was clearly what you HOPED would happen. Not sure you could take credit for any of your other predictions. All you did was to stalk the insiders and those in the know, then stealth change or flip flop your predictions and stealth change accordingly. That is not predicting. It's parroting those in the know, then trying to sneakily change your predictions when conflicting information comes in. You really shouldn't argue about stuff you know nothing about and a quick google search won't cut it.

 

I'll give you another chance to flip flop and possibly get yourself out of a hole. What are your predictions for LT for Odyssey, next Smash for Switch, Animal Crossing for Switch and by extension, Switch itself. This should be interesting. 

ok so you can use that excuse for smash being out sold on 3ds and wiiu, but i can't use mario galaxy being out sold by smash on wii because there was two 3d mario games that gen, and the sequel actually out only 2 years later. anyway smash, and 3d mario like i said before are too close in sales to call one bigger then the other on a game to game bases, but 3d mario has way more potential, and has way more games under it's belt with big sales, so it's a bigger franchise, this is a fact.

mario  Odyssey 18-20 million

pokemon 18-22 million

2d mario 13 million

smash 11 million

mario kart 16 million

animal crossing 11 million i don't really know about his franchise , it has 6 games in 18 years and only 2 sold over 10 million.

Oh, also, considering you didn't know, 2 of the games in the AC franchise are more like spin off games than main entries, so shouldn't really be considered when making predictions.



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peachbuggy said:
quickrick said:

ok so you can use that excuse for smash being out sold on 3ds and wiiu, but i can't use mario galaxy being out sold by smash on wii because there was two 3d mario games that gen, and the sequel actually out only 2 years later. anyway smash, and 3d mario like i said before are too close in sales to call one bigger then the other on a game to game bases, but 3d mario has way more potential, and has way more games under it's belt with big sales, so it's a bigger franchise, this is a fact.

mario  Odyssey 18 million

smash 11 million

mario kart 16 million

animal crossing 11 million i don't really know about his franchise , it has 6 games in 18 years and only 2 sold over 10 million.

At least you admit you know little about AC so that's a start. So basically you are predicting 18m for Odyssey, 11m for Smash and 16m for MK8D(?) 11m for Animal Crossing but yet no Switch prediction? So, going by your numbers with 2 franchises lowballed (imo), what would the Switch userbase numbers be for those sort of numbers do you think? You've personally made a mockery of your 50m  and all those lower predictions with those numbers. The previous highest selling 3D Mario game, Galaxy sold to roughly 12.5% of the userbase, so by that metric, Switch will sell 144m. So what's it to be?

 

EDIT. I see you stealth edited your post. Well, if Mario sells 20m then using a 12.5% attach rate then that equates to 160m. Interesting. At least 1 of your predictions coming true will see the Switch breaking records. It seems you have changed your tune, lol.

mario odyssey is selling at a rate no 3d mario has ever sold before were talking about around 3x faster then galaxy at the moment. AC is very weird in nearly 20 years they only have 2 games that sold great, and the meh or ok. this seems like a hit and miss franchise. and you way over exaggerating instal base, mario kart 8 sold around 8.4 million on a install base of 13.6 million.

Last edited by quickrick - on 20 January 2018

Well if Odyssey is doing that well, then wouldn't you agree that the Switch is looking like it will comfortably outsell the Wii then, going by Mario numbers? If you look at AC sales, the 2 big sellers are on HH so with the Switch being a hybrid, it will have that advantage as well as being in hd and with the choice to play it on TV, as well as usage of the other utilities of Switch. I think it could be both the most commercially and critically acclaimed AC yet pretty easily.



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Also Super Mario land had a better attach rate for the 3ds but even equating that to the Switch would land it at about 126m by my calculations, assuming 3ds goes on to sell 77k-ish.



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quickrick said:
peachbuggy said:

At least you admit you know little about AC so that's a start. So basically you are predicting 18m for Odyssey, 11m for Smash and 16m for MK8D(?) 11m for Animal Crossing but yet no Switch prediction? So, going by your numbers with 2 franchises lowballed (imo), what would the Switch userbase numbers be for those sort of numbers do you think? You've personally made a mockery of your 50m  and all those lower predictions with those numbers. The previous highest selling 3D Mario game, Galaxy sold to roughly 12.5% of the userbase, so by that metric, Switch will sell 144m. So what's it to be?

 

EDIT. I see you stealth edited your post. Well, if Mario sells 20m then using a 12.5% attach rate then that equates to 160m. Interesting. At least 1 of your predictions coming true will see the Switch breaking records. It seems you have changed your tune, lol.

mario odyssey is selling at a rate no 3d mario has ever sold before were talking about around 3x faster then galaxy at the moment. AC is very weird in nearly 20 years they only have 2 games that sold great, and the meh or ok. this seems like a hit and miss franchise. and you way over exaggerating instal base, mario kart 8 sold around 8.4 million on a install base of 13.6 million.

We're talking about 3d Mario, not Mario Kart. Mario kart is so popular it will get an insane attach rate on any console within reason. Also, there wasn't much competition for games for it on Wii u. Although, mk8 rehash has no chance of an attach rate anywhere near the original.



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peachbuggy said:
quickrick said:

mario odyssey is selling at a rate no 3d mario has ever sold before were talking about around 3x faster then galaxy at the moment. AC is very weird in nearly 20 years they only have 2 games that sold great, and the meh or ok. this seems like a hit and miss franchise. and you way over exaggerating instal base, mario kart 8 sold around 8.4 million on a install base of 13.6 million.

We're talking about 3d Mario, not Mario Kart. Mario kart is so popular it will get an insane attach rate on any console within reason. Also, there wasn't much competition for games for it on Wii u. Although, mk8 rehash has no chance of an attach rate anywhere near the original.

mario kart 8 deluxe is on par to doing similar numbers it always has, only wii is a outlier, as for mario 3d  well there hasn't been many ambitious 3d  mario games since n64, mario galaxy was ambitious but it didn't have the wow factor because the shit hardware that wii was, and as i said before i could have did better but there 2 3d mario games that gen which never happened before.



If 3D Mario can sell at a rate much greater rate than any 3D Mario before it. Then can't Smash,Animal Crossing and 2D Mario do the same? Shouldn't we at least see what these imaginary games are before we make sales predictions? For all we know Smash is just a remake of the N64 one.



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quickrick said:
peachbuggy said:

We're talking about 3d Mario, not Mario Kart. Mario kart is so popular it will get an insane attach rate on any console within reason. Also, there wasn't much competition for games for it on Wii u. Although, mk8 rehash has no chance of an attach rate anywhere near the original.

mario kart 8 deluxe is on par to doing similar numbers it always has, only wii is a outlier, as for mario 3d  well there hasn't been many ambitious 3d  mario games since n64, mario galaxy was ambitious but it didn't have the wow factor because the shit hardware that wii was, and as i said before i could have did better but there 2 3d mario games that gen which never happened before.

The Wii was only an outlier because of its massive sales but in reality it was Nintendo's last successful home console. So, as the Switch atm is showing all the hallmarks of being at least competitive with the Wii, comparisons with the Wii are likely to yield  the more successful results. Mario Kart may seem to be showing all the signs of following a similar sales trajectory as the others should be added proof to you that the Switch is gonna do well. Although you could probably discount the GC and Wii u versions. It will be impossible for those to keep up, given their poor userbases. I don't even think Mario kart will even do that well compared to the most successful Mario Karts, due to it being a full price port. A new MK, however, that's a different story.



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If 3D Mario can sell at a rate much greater rate than any 3D Mario before it. Then can't Smash,Animal Crossing and 2D Mario do the same? Shouldn't we at least see what these imaginary games are before we make sales predictions? For all we know Smash is just a remake of the N64 one.

anything possible but mario O  already did it, but mario odyssey is waht people wanted from a mario game for a long time. i don't think smash or AC will come close. 



quickrick said:
peachbuggy said:

We're talking about 3d Mario, not Mario Kart. Mario kart is so popular it will get an insane attach rate on any console within reason. Also, there wasn't much competition for games for it on Wii u. Although, mk8 rehash has no chance of an attach rate anywhere near the original.

mario kart 8 deluxe is on par to doing similar numbers it always has, only wii is a outlier, as for mario 3d  well there hasn't been many ambitious 3d  mario games since n64, mario galaxy was ambitious but it didn't have the wow factor because the shit hardware that wii was, and as i said before i could have did better but there 2 3d mario games that gen which never happened before.

As for your Mario comments, i think they may offend quite a few here. Galaxy wasn't a bad game by any stretch of the imagination, in fact a few here have it as their favourite Mario game. I think they would disagree with your "wow factor" comment too. Also, the Wii was not shit hardware. Not by a long stretch.



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