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Pemalite said:

Because it has relevance to Trumps political alignment and his supporters and opponents?

No, it doesn't. They do not represent a significant portion of the voter-base. There isn't necessarily a direct connection between the views of the average republican and the actions of these minorities, so I do not think that they should be be brought up in a debate.

What you think is ultimately irrelevant, we are doing it anyway because we believe it has relevancy, hence why we are having a discussion about it.



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I'm sure he has the best cognitive test score. It's great.



You know that thing when you uhhh...and then you...hmmm. But then you have to...umm, Yuh.

Wow. A lot of revisionist history here. The KKK was started by Democrats to frighten blacks and the Republicans who freed them. They rose to power again in the early 1900s because of a racist Democrat president, Woodrow Wilson, gave them a voice. He not only praised Birth of A Nation, but also resegregated the Federal government. In 1924, some non-KKK members of the Democrat party wanted to put in a special plank in their platform denouncing their violence. But, there were so many KKK members in the party it was actually voted down. It flared up again during the Civil Rights movement, again containing mostly Democrats opposed to desegregation. This also led to Jim Crow laws.

It's hilarious to watch people perform some crazy mental gymnastics to alter that history. "Oh no, they're totally an organization of the right. They're just made up of Democrats, and just fought on the side of the left/Democrats for over 100 years, then suddenly switched sides. Which is good because we can attack Republicans with their "long" history with them. Shh, don't mention that Republicans were the targets of many of their attacks and that the Republicans have always been opposed to them. For reals." LOL.

Now, it may be fair to say they slowly evolved to a party of neither side, as hatred for minorities pretty much took over their whole platform. But, to try to claim they were ever an organization of the right is just a plain lie. Usually one stated for political purposes, not with any fact behind it.



thismeintiel said:

Wow. A lot of revisionist history here. The KKK was started by Democrats to frighten blacks and the Republicans who freed them. They rose to power again in the early 1900s because of a racist Democrat president, Woodrow Wilson, gave them a voice. He not only praised Birth of A Nation, but also resegregated the Federal government. In 1924, some non-KKK members of the Democrat party wanted to put in a special plank in their platform denouncing their violence. But, there were so many KKK members in the party it was actually voted down. It flared up again during the Civil Rights movement, again containing mostly Democrats opposed to desegregation. This also led to Jim Crow laws.

It's hilarious to watch people perform some crazy mental gymnastics to alter that history. "Oh no, they're totally an organization of the right. They're just made up of Democrats, and just fought on the side of the left/Democrats for over 100 years, then suddenly switched sides. Which is good because we can attack Republicans with their "long" history with them. Shh, don't mention that Republicans were the targets of many of their attacks and that the Republicans have always been opposed to them. For reals." LOL.

Now, it may be fair to say they slowly evolved to a party of neither side, as hatred for minorities pretty much took over their whole platform. But, to try to claim they were ever an organization of the right is just a plain lie. Usually one stated for political purposes, not with any fact behind it.

The majority of Democrats used to be racist especially in the south before the passing of the civil rights act once that was passed they where less racists and the racists ones in the south mostly switched over to the republican party.  Also even though there used to be a ton of racists Democrats.  The president that desegregated the military was a Democrat (Truman) and the president that passed the civil rights act was also a Democrat (LBJ) not to mention that he was also the last president that actually cared about the poor.



Umm that cognitive tests first 4 questions are month, day, year, and who is currently President. On top of that it’s to test for Alzheimer's or dementia. It was not the kind of test that you use to judge someones mental state



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Pemalite said:
Aeolus451 said:

I know what they say they are but that doesn't mean that's what they are or they fighting against actual fascism. There was no fascists in the us for them to bash except for the imaginary kind. 

I was talking about the actual redistribution of wealth and not minor taxation/social safety nets.

Fascists have always existed in the USA in some capacity.

Ku Klux Klan has existed since the 1860's
American Nazi Party has existed since the 50's.
Aryan Nations has existed since the 70's.
National Alliance has existed since the 70's.
National Socialist Movement has been around since the 70's.
American Front has existed since the 80's.
Stormfront has existed since the 90's.

There has been a massive political shift to the right during the last 10 or so years the world over, which has allowed for fascists/neo-nazi's groups to gain prominence in the political landscape, they are still a minority of course, but they are growing.

The United Patriots Front being a prime example in Australia, who was backed by fascists like Pauline Hanson, Reclaim Australia and so on. - They disguise themselves as "Patriots". - Despite the fact they wish to alter the Constitution that this country was founded on, propagate racism, sexism and homophobia... Conversely, it wasn't until those groups started to gain prominence in the political sphere did their opponents also start to rise up.

Don't get me wrong, I despise both sides equally as much. ANTIFA resorting to violence is immature and stupid and ultimately solves nothing.
The Neo Nazi's they fight back against are fucking idiots.

As as I know there was already an American Nazi Party in the 30s not to mention that there where a ton of NAZI sympathizers during that time in the US.  Before the US entered WWII Charles Lindbergh was a big time NAZI sympathizers. 



Chris Hu said:
thismeintiel said:

Wow. A lot of revisionist history here. The KKK was started by Democrats to frighten blacks and the Republicans who freed them. They rose to power again in the early 1900s because of a racist Democrat president, Woodrow Wilson, gave them a voice. He not only praised Birth of A Nation, but also resegregated the Federal government. In 1924, some non-KKK members of the Democrat party wanted to put in a special plank in their platform denouncing their violence. But, there were so many KKK members in the party it was actually voted down. It flared up again during the Civil Rights movement, again containing mostly Democrats opposed to desegregation. This also led to Jim Crow laws.

It's hilarious to watch people perform some crazy mental gymnastics to alter that history. "Oh no, they're totally an organization of the right. They're just made up of Democrats, and just fought on the side of the left/Democrats for over 100 years, then suddenly switched sides. Which is good because we can attack Republicans with their "long" history with them. Shh, don't mention that Republicans were the targets of many of their attacks and that the Republicans have always been opposed to them. For reals." LOL.

Now, it may be fair to say they slowly evolved to a party of neither side, as hatred for minorities pretty much took over their whole platform. But, to try to claim they were ever an organization of the right is just a plain lie. Usually one stated for political purposes, not with any fact behind it.

The majority of Democrats used to be racist especially in the south before the passing of the civil rights act once that was passed they where less racists and the racists ones in the south mostly switched over to the republican party.  Also even though there used to be a ton of racists Democrats.  The president that desegregated the military was a Democrat (Truman) and the president that passed the civil rights act was also a Democrat (LBJ) not to mention that he was also the last president that actually cared about the poor.

I wouldn’t bother. He’s bringing up things with no relevancy to create, what I assume, to be a “point”. But perhaps the entire thing is a result of him not doing mental gymnastics like everyone else. Because it should be clear as day to most that he missed brain day. 



thismeintiel said:

Wow. A lot of revisionist history here. The KKK was started by Democrats to frighten blacks and the Republicans who freed them. They rose to power again in the early 1900s because of a racist Democrat president, Woodrow Wilson, gave them a voice. He not only praised Birth of A Nation, but also resegregated the Federal government. In 1924, some non-KKK members of the Democrat party wanted to put in a special plank in their platform denouncing their violence. But, there were so many KKK members in the party it was actually voted down. It flared up again during the Civil Rights movement, again containing mostly Democrats opposed to desegregation. This also led to Jim Crow laws.

It's hilarious to watch people perform some crazy mental gymnastics to alter that history. "Oh no, they're totally an organization of the right. They're just made up of Democrats, and just fought on the side of the left/Democrats for over 100 years, then suddenly switched sides. Which is good because we can attack Republicans with their "long" history with them. Shh, don't mention that Republicans were the targets of many of their attacks and that the Republicans have always been opposed to them. For reals." LOL.

Now, it may be fair to say they slowly evolved to a party of neither side, as hatred for minorities pretty much took over their whole platform. But, to try to claim they were ever an organization of the right is just a plain lie. Usually one stated for political purposes, not with any fact behind it.

As I'm sure you are aware of, democrats haven't always been left leaning. Democrats used to be for low taxes, "pro-business", for a small government, and used to have majority support in the southern states. The complete opposite of today. 

Hell, democrats still aren't left leaning. Just less to the right than current republicans.

But to say that the KKK in it's current form isn't a part of the extreme right is just false. However fringe movements on either side have little relevance and I don't see why that's what's dominating the discussion...



thismeintiel said:

Wow. A lot of revisionist history here. The KKK was started by Democrats to frighten blacks and the Republicans who freed them. They rose to power again in the early 1900s because of a racist Democrat president, Woodrow Wilson, gave them a voice. He not only praised Birth of A Nation, but also resegregated the Federal government. In 1924, some non-KKK members of the Democrat party wanted to put in a special plank in their platform denouncing their violence. But, there were so many KKK members in the party it was actually voted down. It flared up again during the Civil Rights movement, again containing mostly Democrats opposed to desegregation. This also led to Jim Crow laws.

It's hilarious to watch people perform some crazy mental gymnastics to alter that history. "Oh no, they're totally an organization of the right. They're just made up of Democrats, and just fought on the side of the left/Democrats for over 100 years, then suddenly switched sides. Which is good because we can attack Republicans with their "long" history with them. Shh, don't mention that Republicans were the targets of many of their attacks and that the Republicans have always been opposed to them. For reals." LOL.

Now, it may be fair to say they slowly evolved to a party of neither side, as hatred for minorities pretty much took over their whole platform. But, to try to claim they were ever an organization of the right is just a plain lie. Usually one stated for political purposes, not with any fact behind it.

You don't know what right-wing means if your understanding is that left = Democrats and right = Republicans



Right left... I hate those words. Overbearing categorizations that are highly harmful to the overall discussion. The two-party system in the US in particular has turned complex political topics into a clan war, where each side first and foremost protects the ideology of the "clan" rather than formulating independent opinions, debates general turning into shit-throwing contests.

It's NOT natural that you can identify the position of most people upon hundreds of completely independent political topics by an answer they gave on one of them.



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