Cerebralbore101 said:
I agree that a whole season of ports is a shortage. There's too much criticism going around towards people that expect Nintendo to have a decent lineup. The only way Nintendo is going to hit a 100 million lifetime mark is if they have 4-5 new big name games a year, every year. And it isn't too much to expect exactly that, because they are still a gen behind, and moved their handheld dev teams to Switch.
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I think it's because after a while people start just associating ideas with whether they are negative or not. Every time someone says anything remotely bad about Nintendo, you always get a comment like "Oh look, it's the NintenDOOM haters out here just shitting on Nintendo for no reason!" At a certain point attitudes become too simplistic. No, I'm not a hater I'm just saying this lineup isn't the most appealing, please don't lump me in with those people. Those kind of generalizations are usually a defense mechanism from people who don't want to admit nuanced negativity exists towards a company.
NightlyPoe said:
That's your odd definition. To me, if a console is getting a steady diet of games that people are buying, then there is no shortage.
As someone who passed on the Wii U, I'm happy it looks like Nintendo is using the best games from it to bolster their lineup.
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You say my definition is odd and then twist the discussion to "if a console is getting a steady diet of games then there's no shortage!". Yeah, duh, but if you remove context from any discussion you can make simplistic points like that. If you want a console that has a steady diet of games people are always buying, buy a PS4. It dwarfs the Switch in that respect and there are no shortages. But you know, I don't really want the Switch to be the PS4. I just want steady NEW content from one of the best gaming companies out there. And if that demand isn't being met, then I'm not just going to pretend like it is being met because of ports. Nintendo systems are already set to a much lower standard when it comes to games per console than any other console system, it's not like i'm expecting much. Just SOME big games in the first half of the year. If Nintendo can't do that then they are failing at what is more or less their defacto mission statement; to deliver exclusive experiences that sell consoles. And please don't respond with "WELL THESE PORTS SELL WELL SO BLAH BLAH BLAH". Honestly, anyone who doesn't expect ports and remasters to sell well are not paying attention to this generation at all. Really though, I don't think any of these games will sell the Switch... Mario Kart 8 was strong enough to do that even as a port but Donkey Kong and Hyrule Warriors will have minimal if not virtually no impact.
I like ports too, by the way. I think they're a great way of delivering content to people who want to access it more conveniently. New players and old get to enjoy great games. But I don't like it when that becomes a marketing gimmick to fill gaps in a console lineup. Pretty simple. God, I hate that I actually have to explain WHY I don't think this is a great lineup. Partially because I don't even believe this is the full lineup for the first half of the year, but also because I know I'll just be lumped in with the NintenDOOM crowd lol. I don't have a problem with you liking the lineup, that's perfectly fine. I'm just arguing based on the grounds you set up in your original reply.