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Which one do you think will sell more?

PSVR 18 21.18%
 
Switch 56 65.88%
 
Almost the same 7 8.24%
 
Results 4 4.71%
 
Total:85
HoangNhatAnh said:
DonFerrari said:

So you want to talk about big games and cost but then limit it to a very limited context? Ok, distort reality as much as you want.

A post before you were saying you weren't discussing Sony games... you sure change fast.

He mentioned The Last Guardian and the upcoming Shadow of the Colossus, i just answer him. And, you are the one who brought Ratchet and Clank first, not me so i just used it as a example. Can you try again?

Yes He and Me brought those games... for me you said you aren't talking about other consoles offering, for him you tried another failed argument... Seems like you accept internally that Nintendo games and 3rd party offerings on Nintendo are cheaper productions.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

He mentioned The Last Guardian and the upcoming Shadow of the Colossus, i just answer him. And, you are the one who brought Ratchet and Clank first, not me so i just used it as a example. Can you try again?

Yes He and Me brought those games... for me you said you aren't talking about other consoles offering, for him you tried another failed argument... Seems like you accept internally that Nintendo games and 3rd party offerings on Nintendo are cheaper productions.

Since Switch require less power, resolution and very easy to make game for, isn't it obvious? And Nintendo games are cheaper than 3rd, OK, are you for real?

https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/06/30/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2-million-copies-to-break-even/&refURL=https://www.google.com.vn/&referrer=https://www.google.com.vn/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2-million-t/1100-6441358/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-30-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2m-copies-to-profit

https://www.gamnesia.com/news/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2-million-copies-to-ma

https://techraptor.net/content/zelda-breath-wild-needs-two-million-copies-sold-become-profitable

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/29/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-pass-2-million-in-sales



habam said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

We are talking about third party games sales for Switch here, is Ratchet and Clank a third party? I didn't know it was already on Switch? 

So Mario is a 3rd party game?

 

Álso not sure if SF was more expensive then Yokaa Laylee

Again, we are talking about sales of third party games on Switch. Not me but the ones i replied brought Ratchet and Clank here, why don't you ask them instead? Also, a game with a budget over 2 mil of kickstarter and on more platforms (Mac/Linux) than SF is more expensive, OK



HoangNhatAnh said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes He and Me brought those games... for me you said you aren't talking about other consoles offering, for him you tried another failed argument... Seems like you accept internally that Nintendo games and 3rd party offerings on Nintendo are cheaper productions.

Since Switch require less power, resolution and very easy to make game for, isn't it obvious? And Nintendo games are cheaper than 3rd, OK, are you for real?

https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/06/30/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2-million-copies-to-break-even/&refURL=https://www.google.com.vn/&referrer=https://www.google.com.vn/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2-million-t/1100-6441358/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-30-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2m-copies-to-profit

https://www.gamnesia.com/news/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2-million-copies-to-ma

https://techraptor.net/content/zelda-breath-wild-needs-two-million-copies-sold-become-profitable

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/29/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-pass-2-million-in-sales

GTA V was made for the PS3/X360 console, same for CoD and several others, including Tomb Raider... still they costed much much more than Zelda or any other Nintendo game.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Since Switch require less power, resolution and very easy to make game for, isn't it obvious? And Nintendo games are cheaper than 3rd, OK, are you for real?

https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/06/30/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2-million-copies-to-break-even/&refURL=https://www.google.com.vn/&referrer=https://www.google.com.vn/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2-million-t/1100-6441358/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-30-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2m-copies-to-profit

https://www.gamnesia.com/news/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-sell-2-million-copies-to-ma

https://techraptor.net/content/zelda-breath-wild-needs-two-million-copies-sold-become-profitable

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/29/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-needs-to-pass-2-million-in-sales

GTA V was made for the PS3/X360 console, same for CoD and several others, including Tomb Raider... still they costed much much more than Zelda or any other Nintendo game.

Exactly, Nintendo games including Zelda BoTW are a lot more cheaper than AAA and Switch is still at least 4-5 times weaker than PS4/Xbox 1 so cost more doesn't mean cost as much as PS4/Xbox 1 games



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HoangNhatAnh said:
DonFerrari said:

GTA V was made for the PS3/X360 console, same for CoD and several others, including Tomb Raider... still they costed much much more than Zelda or any other Nintendo game.

Exactly, Nintendo games including Zelda BoTW are a lot more cheaper than AAA and Switch is still at least 4-5 times weaker than PS4/Xbox 1 so cost more doesn't mean cost as much as PS4/Xbox 1 games

Still Switch is above PS360 in power but the cost of the development was much lower.... this is more on their philosophy than the power of the machine itself.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Exactly, Nintendo games including Zelda BoTW are a lot more cheaper than AAA and Switch is still at least 4-5 times weaker than PS4/Xbox 1 so cost more doesn't mean cost as much as PS4/Xbox 1 games

Still Switch is above PS360 in power but the cost of the development was much lower.... this is more on their philosophy than the power of the machine itself.

3,5 times stronger than PS360 and at least 4-5 times weaker than PS4/Xbox 1, the cost in 7th gen is nothing compared to 8th gen. You are serious thinking the cost for a Switch game which required less power and less resolution/fps is the same as PS4/Xbox1?



HoangNhatAnh said:
DonFerrari said:

Still Switch is above PS360 in power but the cost of the development was much lower.... this is more on their philosophy than the power of the machine itself.

3,5 times stronger than PS360 and at least 4-5 times weaker than PS4/Xbox 1, the cost in 7th gen is nothing compared to 8th gen. You are serious thinking the cost for a Switch game which required less power and less resolution/fps is the same as PS4/Xbox1?

And you think Switch Nintendo games are costing more than the PS360?

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/09/gta-5-is-biggest-budget-video-game-ever-at-265-million-3955201/

https://kotaku.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-big-video-game-1501413649 (CoD MW)

https://www.engadget.com/2013/04/21/heavy-rain-cost-52-million-but-made-130-million-you-do-the-ma/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uncharted-sequel-costing-usd-20-million

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-17-tomb-raider-finally-achieved-profitability-by-the-end-of-last-year

Some games from gen 7th for which the costs are nothing compared to gen 8th as you said... so how much did Zelda and Mario for Switch costed?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

3,5 times stronger than PS360 and at least 4-5 times weaker than PS4/Xbox 1, the cost in 7th gen is nothing compared to 8th gen. You are serious thinking the cost for a Switch game which required less power and less resolution/fps is the same as PS4/Xbox1?

And you think Switch Nintendo games are costing more than the PS360?

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/09/gta-5-is-biggest-budget-video-game-ever-at-265-million-3955201/

https://kotaku.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-big-video-game-1501413649 (CoD MW)

https://www.engadget.com/2013/04/21/heavy-rain-cost-52-million-but-made-130-million-you-do-the-ma/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uncharted-sequel-costing-usd-20-million

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-17-tomb-raider-finally-achieved-profitability-by-the-end-of-last-year

Some games from gen 7th for which the costs are nothing compared to gen 8th as you said... so how much did Zelda and Mario for Switch costed?

Correct, this is why it is cheap to make game for Switch when most third party AAA games are port only. Since when i said Switch games are costing more? With Nintendo ability, their games never cost tens of millions to make while still get great quality, even GOTY. Some games from 7th gen which the costs are nothing compared to gen 8th are some AAA games here, as i said before, the biggest Nintendo game: Zelda only need to sell 2 mil to be a success, just show how good Nintendo is at managing the budget. Some games like Witcher 2 budget are nothing compared to 3, Uncharted 3 have the cost can't compared to 4, or Killzone 3 compared to Horizon are laughable. 

Last edited by HoangNhatAnh - on 30 January 2018

HoangNhatAnh said:
DonFerrari said:

And you think Switch Nintendo games are costing more than the PS360?

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/09/gta-5-is-biggest-budget-video-game-ever-at-265-million-3955201/

https://kotaku.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-big-video-game-1501413649 (CoD MW)

https://www.engadget.com/2013/04/21/heavy-rain-cost-52-million-but-made-130-million-you-do-the-ma/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uncharted-sequel-costing-usd-20-million

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-17-tomb-raider-finally-achieved-profitability-by-the-end-of-last-year

Some games from gen 7th for which the costs are nothing compared to gen 8th as you said... so how much did Zelda and Mario for Switch costed?

Correct, this is why it is cheap to make game for Switch when most third party AAA games are port only. Since when i said Switch games are costing more? With Nintendo ability, their games never cost tens of millions to make while still get great quality, even GOTY. Some games from 7th gen which the costs are nothing compared to gen 8th are some AAA games here, as i said before, the biggest Nintendo game: Zelda only need to sell 2 mil to be a success, just show how good Nintendo is at managing the budget. Some games like Witcher 2 budget are nothing compared to 3, Uncharted 3 have the cost can't compared to 4, or Killzone 3 compared to Horizon are laughable. 

You didn't. You basically said games on Switch cost less than on PS4 because it is like a gen difference on the power... still that wouldn't explain why they are also a lot less expensive than gen 7.

Nintendo don't use a lot of the what makes the budget higher, it isn't mostly a matter of managing budget, it is not having VA, not using very high quality assets, photo-realistic look, etc.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."