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quickrick on 04 January 2018
zorg1000 said:
SWORDF1SH said:

I'm starting to get fed up with the personal attacks on quickrick. I don't agree with a lot of things he says but as far I'm aware he hasn't got personal with anybody else, just made some wild predictions. 

Nope, wild predictions has nothing to do with it, i just stated in my post after this why hes disliked, hes not a Nintendo gamer yet 90% of his posts are about Nintendo and always negative.

Its ok to have a preference, its not ok to go around and bash others to make you feel good about your preference.

this is hyperbolic. Nintendo is the only unknown in sales right now. xbone is is gonna end up at 40-45 million, ps4 over 100 million. so making prediction for switch is still interesting. Nintedo to me makes some of the best games. i just will be shocked if they can sell that much units just based on there first party alone, and how strong the mobile market is today.



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SWORDF1SH on 04 January 2018
zorg1000 said:
SWORDF1SH said:

I'm starting to get fed up with the personal attacks on quickrick. I don't agree with a lot of things he says but as far I'm aware he hasn't got personal with anybody else, just made some wild predictions. 

Nope, wild predictions has nothing to do with it, i just stated in my post after this why hes disliked, hes not a Nintendo gamer yet 90% of his posts are about Nintendo and always negative.

Its ok to have a preference, its not ok to go around and bash others to make you feel good about your preference.

The way people are talking to him is distasteful at best. It's not ok whatever your excuse. 



quickrick on 04 January 2018
RolStoppable said:
quickrick said:

this is hyperbolic. Nintendo is the only unknown in sales right now. xbone is is gonna end up at 40-45 million, ps4 over 100 million. so making prediction for switch is still interesting. Nintedo to me makes some of the best games. i just will be shocked if they can sell that much units just based on there first party alone, and how strong the mobile market is today.

Nintendo isn't really an unknown. You would have to bet against virtually all historic sales trends in order to be continually surprised and shocked.

But really, it's not about your predictions. It's that attitude of yours that the PS4 winning something doesn't cut it, the PS4 has to win by a huge margin and others have to feel miserable about it. The November NPD thread is a good example of this.

Thats your opinion, to me it's unknown. i mean we can look at sales data and say no way would 3ds end up at only 75 million, same thing for wiiu 14 million, or even wii, there is no way it would just do 100 million. you never know what a console might end up at, and today market is very different then anytime before it.

lol notice i never mentioned ps4 winning in a huge margin in December, but november it was a giving, besides people insulted or called me crazy/fanboy for making the right prediction in november. 



SWORDF1SH on 04 January 2018
RolStoppable said:
quickrick said:

this is hyperbolic. Nintendo is the only unknown in sales right now. xbone is is gonna end up at 40-45 million, ps4 over 100 million. so making prediction for switch is still interesting. Nintedo to me makes some of the best games. i just will be shocked if they can sell that much units just based on there first party alone, and how strong the mobile market is today.

Nintendo isn't really an unknown. You would have to bet against virtually all historic sales trends in order to be continually surprised and shocked.

This is true, I'm surprised by anybody that doubts the Switch with a good full 10 months of sales data. 



TheBlackNaruto on 04 January 2018

Sooooooooo no more talk about Amazon sales and rankings? Just Dec NPD and predictions?.......okay got it........



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zorg1000 on 04 January 2018
TheBlackNaruto said:
Sooooooooo no more talk about Amazon sales and rankings? Just Dec NPD and predictions?.......okay got it........

Its been 9 hours since PoisonParadise posted the rankings, i blame him.



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TheBlackNaruto on 04 January 2018
zorg1000 said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
Sooooooooo no more talk about Amazon sales and rankings? Just Dec NPD and predictions?.......okay got it........

Its been 9 hours since PoisonParadise posted the rankings, i blame him.

You know what this seems like the case! I blame him as well lol!



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quickrick on 04 January 2018
RolStoppable said:
quickrick said:

Thats your opinion, to me it's unknown. i mean we can look at sales data and say no way would 3ds end up at only 75 million, same thing for wiiu 14 million, or even wii, there is no way it would just do 100 million. you never know what a console might end up at, and today market is very different then anytime before it.

lol notice i never mentioned ps4 winning in a huge margin in December, but november it was a giving, besides people insulted or called me crazy/fanboy for making the right prediction in november. 

It's disingenious to portray pre-launch expectations as the same as expectations after 9-10 months of sales. There's a lot more clarity after almost a year of sales. You know if a system has struggled or if it's riding a wave of success, so it's quite straightforward to predict how things will continue.

In 2017 we had Switch win 6 out of 9 NPDs it was avaiable in (December is still pending). Switch's losses came in a month of heavy supply constraints (May), a month with Gold and Silver Editions for the PS4 (June) and in Black Friday month (November, $199 PS4). Switch has one special win (launch month March), but the general trend was that in an ordinary month for all consoles, Switch comes out on top. This can be expected to continue in 2018 and Amazon should be a quite reliable indicator for sales. In the last four years there have been only one or two occasions where Amazon wasn't representative.

switch didn't meet launch demand for a long time, many of those buyers are early adopters. next year i expect ps4 to win most npd's. this console imo will have it's best the first year with most nintendo fans buying it early just look at how nintedo games are selling on the thing it's mind blowing.



Slarvax on 04 January 2018
p0isonparadise said:

10 hours since last update.

HARDWARE:
#07 NS Neon (same)
#11 NS Grey (same)
#23 XB1 Forza (same)
#34 PS4 Fool's Edition (down 2)
#41 PS4 Star Wars (down 1)
#59 XB1X (same)
#61 PS4 Pro (same)
#73 XB1 Minecraft (down 3)

SOFTWARE (Pre-orders Only)**:
Nothing at the moment

Does not affect this month: *
Software outside of the month only gets added if it's in the top 20: **

PS4: 3 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
XB1: 3 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
NIS:  2 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 2 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5

Monster Hunter and DBFZ should be on the software list.

Edit: Also Dissidia Final Fantasy. 



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Playstation_awaiter on 04 January 2018

Damn, Benji is saying PS4 could be closer to switch than most thought.