Frankly I do believe, and it seems likely to me, that both videogaming and social media are going to be more regulated in the future on grounds of gambling, addiction and privacy concerns. How much I do not know but linking ID and virtual profiles and prohibiting it to minors seem possible.

Let us remind that at one point cocaine products were OK to kids and no one knew tobacco smoking could be hazardous to your health, and restrictions and studies were also likely met with ultrage and disbelief.

"It IS a negative condition but I guess this is what happens when I'm one of the only few in our community to admit a problem that quite a few are overly zealous about hobby ... "

...Not really. I agree that there is an issue people have with being too infatuated with gaming and getting addicted to it. That's a problem that pretty much every hobby or activity can have but for gaming it's probably way easier to get addicted as opposed to other hobbies. Still, I don't see how saying "Well of course this is going to be the response when i'm the only one who can admit there's an issue gosh darnit!" is justified when that's clearly not what I am saying. It really sounds like you're saying this to pretend like you're on a high ground of self awareness. Lol no, I too understand this is an issue with gamers. 

My point about it being "literal" was this : I said that you are being very liberal with what you consider a "mental condition", as in referring to a bad condition. Because, ya know, most people don't just randomly reply to someone with "Oh good morning Mr. Rogers I have a great mental condition today!". And in the context of the discussion we were obviously talking about a negative mental condition. You replied saying basically "No, I was being literal, because any mental state is a mental condition". Not even in the same ball park of the discussion, redundant, and a huge stretch to make a statement literal. 

Now if you want to say that Gaming Disorder is a bad mental condition, that's fine and I think you could say that literally. But that's not even what we were disagreeing on.  Again, you are not addressing the point. I'm saying considering 2 hours of play time a day worthy of being called a "condition" is ridiculous. Not that Gaming Disorder isn't a negative mental condition...

"How can anyone justify that having behaviour above 2 standard deviations being "normal" which describes just less than 3% of the total population ?  "

What the fuck are you even talking about at this point? Are you going to actually respond to what I said word for word or are you just going to ask a random question? I don't think I said that bad gaming addictions are normal, but honestly I don't even know what you're referring to...

" It's absolutely a shitty thing to do to spend more time than needed for gaming since it kills your quality of life like we see in the example provided by StokedUp ... "

I suppose your reply to this too will be that this is a "literal" statement but again, it begs the question, what is the "needed" amount of time for gaming? Because I'd say most people think 2 hours is pretty ok. There is no set amount of time "needed for gaming", so your point is almost irrelevant. It's always going to be a balance of priorities with anything including a job or socializing etc. This is just kind of a non point, you're essentially saying "it's absolutely shitty to spend more time than needed for a hobby" - but the entire discussion was about what constitutes as "needed", or more accurately(needed is such a silly statement for gaming) "unacceptable" time frames . So you're just making a statement that doesn't really mean anything. The entire discussion is about what's excessive and what isn't, so saying it's shitty to be excessive is a no duh.

It's very weird that you practically replied to nothing I said ... lol. And before you say something like "Wow so triggered look at this reply" or "wow I hit a nerve" I am willing to admit that other facets of my life are mentally unstable and that I have bad mental health with my own conditions. Gaming addiction just isn't one of them, so I'd certainly not be defensive over it haha. I genuinely want to/can't understand your opinion. 

Ka-pi96 said: Does that mean you could claim disability benefit for playing games?

Probably and I bet alot of gamers and normies are gonna milk that tit dry til they start to question it.

Great rebuttal, it made total sense and you really proved your point with this one :)

Does that mean esports can be in the Special Olympics now?

Why is a mere 15 hours of gaming a week a mental condition? What if I spent 15 hours a week reading novels? Is that a mental condition? What about 15 hours a week walking and playing with my dog? 

Sorry, but a normal healthy workweek is 40 hours, and after exercise, chores, etc., you should have around 45 hours of freetime a week. This assumes you workout ten hours a week, and sleep 8 hours a day. It's normal and perfectly healthy to use that 45 hours of downtime doing whatever makes you happy. I'd argue that not spending at least 30 hours a week doing things you like constitutes a real mental condition. It's called workaholicism, and it's much more prevalent than videogame addiction. 

Something is only an addiction if it seriously interferes with your life. If you leave stacks of dirty dishes, don't eat healthy, rarely exercise, and have no social life, then you have an addiction. 

is 15 hours a week of gaming bad? I assume most people in here do more

I was addicted once upon a time, would easily do 20 hours in a sitting, it was to mask other issues going on in my life and could've been any medium. I don't think video games is much more different than movies and such.

Well yeah, we are like on a drug users forum.tallking how a little use of drugs  once a while isn't bad.  Except for completing a game (like the crash trilogy in less than 5 days) I don't feel addicted. I know it depends on the games but I think I not played a game from Wensday/tuesday? I am more like a binge gamer....Who plays a game for days like crazy but then after it gets into a black hole  and don't find something fun for weeks;

I was really addicted to video games when I was a kid and teen. So much so that when our computer broke down, I got really bad withdrawals from not being able to play during the weeks before we got a new computer.

Like anxiety and depression and stuff. And the time I spent on it was out of control. I could sit on the computer until 03:00 in the morning when I had to get up for school a 06:00.
It was really bad and I'm glad that part of my life is over.

Not really. Sometimes if a new game comes out like CoD I will probably have 25 hours played that week and the next week I'll end up only playing like 5 hours.