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Baddman said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Why do the same people continue to create a mess, every single week, about the same topic? Cant you people learn to ignore “that guy”? It’s redundant.

If only.   I almost don't want to come in these threads when I see a lot of replies as it usually means stupid arguing over dumb shit.

So should we just let certain users be because of it? Whether its me or not someone will be doing it. Either in MC thread or another (NPD/Amazon/etc). I already stay away from COMG as much because i try not to argue but it happens.........



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tbone51 said:
Baddman said:

If only.   I almost don't want to come in these threads when I see a lot of replies as it usually means stupid arguing over dumb shit.

So should we just let certain users be because of it? Whether its me or not someone will be doing it. Either in MC thread or another (NPD/Amazon/etc). I already stay away from COMG as much because i try not to argue but it happens.........

Lol all I shall say is a very famous Mark Twain quote comes to mind..remember that



Kerotan said:
tbone51 said:

A third? You mean Half right?

3DS/XL/2DS same hardware. (2DS is equivalent to the slim)

N3DS/NXL/2DSXL is the upgraded one.

 

Your comparing the switch to wiiu+3ds but again as others explained thats not how it works. If anything makes sense it would be more of software combine than hardware. 

 

Your goalpost are always to make sony look good and nintendo to look bad. Best example would be in the Amazon thread after holidays you were bragging how nintendo hw and sw were going down then when it actually stayed strong now your going back to your last resort psn cards to spin it in your favor. Bravo

I'm sorry but in the real world that's how it works. It's the reality that Nintendo now have 1 console instead of 2. They previously could sell a home console and a handheld. Now they have a hybrid. 

 

To them they will be comparing their sales to last gen. In Japan I believe they will fall short. WW I believe they can beat the Wii u and 3ds. So this is most certainly a fair comparison. 

 

If they had made just a portable I'd compare it to the 3ds only. If they made switch home console only I'd compare it to Wii u only. 

 

I know you don't take take kindly too these words because you are heavily favoured towards Nintendo but it's reality. Bravo is right. 

Switch will easily sell more software than the 3DS and Wii U combined, in every region.

That's what really counts. 

Outselling both combined hardware wise also looks very do-able. Wii U dropped off a cliff after its launch, so it won't be hard for the Switch to start closing the gap next year. 

Switch is also selling very comfortably at a $300 price tag while the 3DS needed a huge price cut to start selling well.  

All things considered Nintendo's position is a lot better now than it was during the 3DS / Wii U era. Spin all you want, but it won't make it any less true. 

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Ka-pi96 said:
Acevil said:

Ya really should go by that principal. Like look how nice last week was. He was banned, and this thread was so much better. Ignore him, he will go to higher extremes, and eventually he will be permed. 

Permed? So he'll end up like this?

Oh my god! Nice pic



Pocky Lover Boy! 

Miyamotoo said:
tbone51 said:

Each paragraph.

1) your basically doing the opposite. Your saying its a hybrid. So why would 2 switches have to replace 1wiiu and 1 3ds if switch is a "HYBRID". Wouldn't it be wiser to by "Kerotan" logic to subtract 13.5mil wiiu from 70mil+ 3ds? If your logic is true then it is the "Software" that switch needs to beat wiiu/3ds combine (franchises that have both counterparts). See that is realistic than your reasoning

2) If your comparing them then yes but nintendo never stated that they have to beat both combined. No offense but Switch is doing better for the company than the 3ds/wiiu combine. It doesnt matter even of it sells less. Because the most important thing for a company is "Profits". Would you rather sell 100mil HW and make nothing or sell 50mil HW and make $1,000,000,000? See the difference?

3) No comment

4) I dont take kindly to horrible logic. Sure its about nintendo but i wont argue if its true. If i did i argue with every1 saying bad things about nintendo. Not just you/Lawlight/DrVita/Quick (and a few others)

Agree.

Its intresting how he continue to push his narative buy saying that Switch need to sell Wii U + 3DS numbers beacuse Switch is a hybrid, ignoring fact that Switch despite its hybrid its still one console (one platform, with one linuep of games, with one price point, with one market...), and despite its one console that Nintendo can easily have much better profit than they had with Wii U and 3DS and we actually seeing that.

Yeah 1 console that replaced 2. If ps4 was also portable and a successor to the vita as well we would obviously be comparing it to vita + ps3. The only reason you guys don't accept this comparison is because it doesn't favor the switch. 



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Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

Agree.

Its intresting how he continue to push his narative buy saying that Switch need to sell Wii U + 3DS numbers beacuse Switch is a hybrid, ignoring fact that Switch despite its hybrid its still one console (one platform, with one linuep of games, with one price point, with one market...), and despite its one console that Nintendo can easily have much better profit than they had with Wii U and 3DS and we actually seeing that.

Yeah 1 console that replaced 2. If ps4 was also portable and a successor to the vita as well we would obviously be comparing it to vita + ps3. The only reason you guys don't accept this comparison is because it doesn't favor the switch. 

We dont accept it because it doesnt make sense. Why would the trade off be from 1 consumer who had a wiiu and a 3ds now to own 2 switches when the point is to have 1 as its a hyrbid? Your not looking at this obvious fact. Your ignoring it because it favors your agenda.

 

Only thing i would agree on with you is the combined software (for franchises that have both HH and HC counterparts too). As a hybrid overall it should sell at the levels of both HH and HC together.

 

Hardware wise another thing you keep on ignoring is the fact that switch probably this year alone made more of a profit than 3ds/wiiu did in its combined lifetime. Its not all about HW numbers. If switch ends up selling lets say 60mil with a ton of SW sold with it, its miles better than wiiu/3ds selling a combine total of 85mil-90mil. 

 

3DS was selling at a lost, wiiu was a finicial disaster. So you putting words in nintendos mouth saying they have to (as in you know thats what they are doing) sell more than wiiu/3ds combine just to be successful and replace them is BS



And to make matters worse...

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8672120

Literally post this saying ita impressive because of the "profits" yet ignores it when it comes to the comparison between switch amd wiiu/3ds smh



tbone51 said:
Kerotan said:

Yeah 1 console that replaced 2. If ps4 was also portable and a successor to the vita as well we would obviously be comparing it to vita + ps3. The only reason you guys don't accept this comparison is because it doesn't favor the switch. 

We dont accept it because it doesnt make sense. Why would the trade off be from 1 consumer who had a wiiu and a 3ds now to own 2 switches when the point is to have 1 as its a hyrbid? Your not looking at this obvious fact. Your ignoring it because it favors your agenda.

 

Only thing i would agree on with you is the combined software (for franchises that have both HH and HC counterparts too). As a hybrid overall it should sell at the levels of both HH and HC together.

 

Hardware wise another thing you keep on ignoring is the fact that switch probably this year alone made more of a profit than 3ds/wiiu did in its combined lifetime. Its not all about HW numbers. If switch ends up selling lets say 60mil with a ton of SW sold with it, its miles better than wiiu/3ds selling a combine total of 85mil-90mil. 

 

3DS was selling at a lost, wiiu was a finicial disaster. So you putting words in nintendos mouth saying they have to (as in you know thats what they are doing) sell more than wiiu/3ds combine just to be successful and replace them is BS

When you compare how a console does gen over gen in terms of pure sales you compare it to the console it replaced. This everyone can agree on otherwise you'd be saying ps3 vs ps4 and xb1 vs 360 makes no sense.

 

Hence why switch can be compared to the Wii u + 3ds as its replaced them both. You can argue there are cons such as single consumers who bought both or you can argue there are pros such as a shared software library but at the end of the day its replacing both of them so can be compared to both. 

 

Pretending it can't is burying your head in the sand. Not everything has to be pro Nintendo. The facts speak for themselves. 



Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

Agree.

Its intresting how he continue to push his narative buy saying that Switch need to sell Wii U + 3DS numbers beacuse Switch is a hybrid, ignoring fact that Switch despite its hybrid its still one console (one platform, with one linuep of games, with one price point, with one market...), and despite its one console that Nintendo can easily have much better profit than they had with Wii U and 3DS and we actually seeing that.

Yeah 1 console that replaced 2. If ps4 was also portable and a successor to the vita as well we would obviously be comparing it to vita + ps3. The only reason you guys don't accept this comparison is because it doesn't favor the switch. 

Because fact is that despite Switch is a hybrid its still one platform and device, Wii U + 3DS or PS3 + Vita are two difrent and separate platforms (with difrent linuep of games, with difrent price point, with difrent marketing...). Actually you're probably only guy that push that WiiU + 3DS numbers agenda because that's favour you for your Sony vs Nintendo comparisons.



Kerotan said:

When you compare how a console does gen over gen in terms of pure sales you compare it to the console it replaced. This everyone can agree on otherwise you'd be saying ps3 vs ps4 and xb1 vs 360 makes no sense.

 

Hence why switch can be compared to the Wii u + 3ds as its replaced them both. You can argue there are cons such as single consumers who bought both or you can argue there are pros such as a shared software library but at the end of the day its replacing both of them so can be compared to both. 

 

Pretending it can't is burying your head in the sand. Not everything has to be pro Nintendo. The facts speak for themselves. 

The facts say that it's very likely Wii U owners or most of them are 3DS owners as well why? Because the two platforms aren't two separate userbase they're one userbase who bought two platforms by replacing both of them the userbase now only needs to buy one platform this is why your logic here is getting the responses it has you're trying to peg the total of 3DS+Wii U as the main target despite that this large hole in the argument exists.

You're essentially saying that some consumers have to buy the Switch twice because it replaced two platforms they had prior.