The X1 is the the least technically capable console available and is 4 years old. The PS4, and increasingly, the PS4 Pro, are acting as a baseline for development. So new hardware is on the verge of being required to enjoy this generation of games without taking a sizable performance hit.

And I'm not sure what major 3rd party franchises are "locked up" on PS4, but when you compare the top 20 selling titles for Xbox One and PS4, the lists are largely the same. Capcom even put Monster Hunter World on Xbox One because of the significant market the Xbox One represents.

There's no war. It's not a zero sum game

One of the talks from X1 higher ups said it was 4k60fps uncompromissed and several users here use that to claim X1X does really achieve that.

Most people could not even tell during the original ps4 and xbox launch. It was all basically according to what digital foundry said. And the difference they show have to be paused and zoom to see. Most don't do that.

It was not me who said it.

trust me, im on the look out for cgi. guy probably has a bunch of images saved and premade arguments for those who undermine graphics.

We could theoretically have better AI and physics with the currents CPUs. I could argue last gen CPUs had more potential then we saw as well.

The X1 is the the least technically capable console available and is 4 years old. The PS4, and increasingly, the PS4 Pro, are acting as a baseline for development. So new hardware is on the verge of being required to enjoy this generation of games without taking a sizable performance hit.

If it stayed at that price.

Sure, if one is that sensitive to other people's opinions. Otherwise, true failure or success is determined by what the manufacturer has set in place and whether or not those expectations have been met.

LOL.

The Xbox One X sold 430k in the US in November.

The Pro sold 260k in the US in November last year.

These are the numbers we currently have. 

Yeah. Microsoft also advertised the Xbox One X as a "True 4k" console. Which was blatantly false.

The difference between the Playstation 4 and Xbox One was at it's largest on launch as Microsoft had reserved a chunk of GPU power for Kinect, it's drivers and API's were also less finely tuned.
And the games showed that, Xbox One games tended to have an extremely soft appearance with poor textures.

And I bet he only uses bullshot images as well, huh? *Hands out tinfoiled hats*

Physics can be moved to the GPU anyway.
GPU based Particles with lighting, shadowing and physics seems to be something that is gaining focus... Especially with Doom and Wolfenstein, that free's up the CPU to do other things at least.

Next gen will see a continuation of that trend with more tasks being done on the GPU.

Depends on what aspect. CPU wise, the Xbox One is a step up over the Playstation 4.
The CPU not only has a higher clock rate, but the eSRAM and DDR3 reduced latency as well when fetching data outside of it's own caches.

GPU wise, it's no contest. - The Playstation 4 has a sizable advantage... Which is often reflected in higher resolutions, better texturing and higher quality post-process effects.

Makes me wonder how PUBG will run on the Playstation 4, the game is already a CPU hog and runs like crap on the Xbox One and Xbox One X and the Playstation 4 has the worst CPU this console generation.

Yeah. Microsoft also advertised the Xbox One X as a "True 4k" console. Which was blatantly false.

The difference between the Playstation 4 and Xbox One was at it's largest on launch as Microsoft had reserved a chunk of GPU power for Kinect, it's drivers and API's were also less finely tuned.

And the games showed that, Xbox One games tended to have an extremely soft appearance with poor textures.

And I bet he only uses bullshot images as well, huh? *Hands out tinfoiled hats*

Physics can be moved to the GPU anyway.
GPU based Particles with lighting, shadowing and physics seems to be something that is gaining focus... Especially with Doom and Wolfenstein, that free's up the CPU to do other things at least.

Next gen will see a continuation of that trend with more tasks being done on the GPU.

Depends on what aspect. CPU wise, the Xbox One is a step up over the Playstation 4.
The CPU not only has a higher clock rate, but the eSRAM and DDR3 reduced latency as well when fetching data outside of it's own caches.

GPU wise, it's no contest. - The Playstation 4 has a sizable advantage... Which is often reflected in higher resolutions, better texturing and higher quality post-process effects.

Makes me wonder how PUBG will run on the Playstation 4, the game is already a CPU hog and runs like crap on the Xbox One and Xbox One X and the Playstation 4 has the worst CPU this console generation.

So you admit that the was barely any difference after launch? 

I was not discrediting CGI, nor implying he makes stuff up, just saying he is passionate when it comes to graphics and that he would love the chance to debate the topic.

No thanks, I already have my own tinfoil hat Premium hat made in china by underage workers.

Sure, if one is that sensitive to other people's opinions. Otherwise, true failure or success is determined by what the manufacturer has set in place and whether or not those expectations have been met.

Interesting so what were those expectations? And what are the numbers? Wait we don't have any information so how come we have 100 replies? They come with new information?  or is it just another thread based on silly anecdotes and people with maybe an agenda?

The game had strong pre-order, was outsold for launch and MS said they were pleased with the launch. So unless you have a source about they lying about it (even thought we know PR will spin to make things better) then all we have to see so far is that it launched good and MS is pleased so, so far, it is a success.

It's PR. Everytime MS PR came up in the NPD thread it got associated with terms as 'Bullshit' 'Lies' 'Pathetic' 'Spingods' etc. But if you want to discuss based on their PR go on.