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konnichiwa said:
DonFerrari said:

The game had strong pre-order, was outsold for launch and MS said they were pleased with the launch. So unless you have a source about they lying about it (even thought we know PR will spin to make things better) then all we have to see so far is that it launched good and MS is pleased so, so far, it is a success.

It's PR. Everytime MS PR came up in the NPD thread it got associated with terms as 'Bullshit' 'Lies' 'Pathetic' 'Spingods' etc. But if you want to discuss based on their PR go on.

Except I aint going only by PR. We have the numbers for the release (that in USA had like 2.5 the size of PS4Pro) and the sold out status during launch and some weeks (if I'm not wrong) so their estimatives for launch was met. Now if during 2018 the sales plummet sure you can say it was a flop, even more if they prematurely discontinue it, but for what we have right now, it seems like a success launch. I do think it'll sell less than PS4Pro, but as long as the platform generates profit and meet their targets there is no reason to say it's a failure.

On the case of the NPD the spin and BS on the PR were obvious, on this case it didn't see like that is the case.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."