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Their cuisine seems to be pretty popular, specially those delicious sausages.



                
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AZWification said:

Their cuisine seems to be pretty popular, specially those delicious sausages.

Our bread should actually be more popular. Liquid bread only from smaller breweries though.



AZWification said:

Their cuisine seems to be pretty popular, specially those delicious sausages.

It's not only the German sausages, that are popular: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/17/world/nation-brand-ranking-trnd/index.html

 

We also have Hans Zimmer...and basically Trump and the English Queen as well ;o)



captain carot said:
HomokHarcos said:

I've found it strange that compared to the other major developed economies of the world, that Germany's popular culture doesn't seem to be as popular worldwide. The UK has The Beatles, Harry Potter, James Bond and the Premier League. Japan has popular video games such as Super Mario and Pokemon, manga and anime. The USA pretty much goes without saying. Why is this?

As for movies, the Nazis basically killed the great german film industry we had in the twenties and thirties. It never really recovered. There are some famous directors and actors though, but usually they go to the US if they get enough fame. Just look at Roland Emmerich, Wolfgang Petersen and the likes.

Music, let's be honest, german mainstream is quite shitty most of the time. Other stuff usually is more underground or not really recognised as german, like Tangerine Dream, Scorpions or others. There is decent to good german music that doesn't get international attention, often because it is in german. There are many successful producers and composers from Germany though. So there is more german influence than many would expect.

And honestly, Knorkator or Die Ärzte only really work if you understand what they sing about. German Kraut Rock has had some influence most people don't know about on the other hand. And yes, we do have good metal bands for sure.

Books are a different story. I think there are some well known authors and way more that should probably better known than they are. At least even people that don't read should know Michael Ende. :p  Again, after WW2 there was a heavy tendency against escapist or seemingly escapist works that probably hurt many authors.

German games: There's Factor 5, Crytec, Daedalic and lots of companies that do every kind of strategy games. But german game developers came from the home computer corner and never got that big in console gaming. German devs not being so much into action probably has it's roots in very restrictive anti violence policies in the eighties and nineties when there was no official rating system for games.

Finally, there's humour. That one usually is either pretty simplistic or very ironic if not satirical. You need a very good translator to let verbal humour work in another language.

Finally, while japanese pop culture for example is quite different, the german in many ways is far closer to american and british.

Germany did have a major film industry during the 1920's. Heck on Watchmojo's Top 10 Films of the 1920's numbers 1 and 2 were German (Metropolis and Nosferatu).



Farsala said:
I love Rammstein.

I don't have the answers but I will attempt it.

UK and USA are english and english=pop culture. Japanese are very open to english and they invent new japanese words all the time to match english words called loan words. Japan is also a bigger trading partner than Germany. Japan also dislikes most of their neighbors so they share their culture with english speakers, while Germany has a good relationship with it's european neighbors, so a lot of its pop culture doesn't get to us.

China is number 2 and they probably have less pop culture than Germany.

Came here to say exactly this HAHA

Well, here in Brazil the "OktoberFest" is quite popular. I'm from Rio Grande do Sul, a state that was colonized by germans and we have lots of small cities in which everyone speaks deutsch, eat lots of eisbein and drink tons of beer. I myself have german ancestry (don't know if you guys use this word, I mean that my ancestors were from Germany). But I never ever really heard about german pop culture.



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One of Germany's most famous pop stars, is a guy with african roots, who sympathizes with the alt-right.... (>more like infamous by now). 

Not sure about any international success though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-BjvA4ahCk


 

Still searching for all those Rs...

 

Nem said: 
The language. It's not very good for singing. Too many R sounds.

Death Metal Hitler Eye of the tiger cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaMhvM03Z-8

Last edited by Errorist76 - on 15 December 2017

Nem said:
The language. It's not very good for singing. Too many R sounds.

The language works for metal/industrial, but for pop it looks really bad.



It also doesn't look bad for some indie-ish style songs.

 



Birimbau said:
Nem said:
The language. It's not very good for singing. Too many R sounds.

The language works for metal/industrial, but for pop it looks really bad.

OK KID (band name)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Tz6XXE6Bk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym52d3XvsWw

 

Bilderbuch 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-GGCrRcu0

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ocyk0OgyWY

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Errorist76 said:
Birimbau said:

The language works for metal/industrial, but for pop it looks really bad.

OK KID (band name)

Bilderbuch 

I thought you wanted the reason, not to debate it. Even on those links you can see it. Germanic languages just have too many R sounds. G's that are pronounced R's aswell as others.

Sure you can make a good melody, but the pool of combinations that work is much smaller than the english language, for example that doesn't use pronounced R sounds so much. Especially for people who don't talk the language the R sounds are very pronounced and don't make for good melodies. It's actually painful to listen to. I can for example point your second link of the first band as an example. 

You can argue that if you want. But you asked and i told you why. This is somewhat common knowledge. Actually a dutch person was the one that pointed this out to me first. Germanic languages just aren't very rich for singing.

As they say, you can't make a (sturdy) house without bricks. It sucks, but it is what it is.