I mean good for splat2 but damn high skyrim sales! Third parties not to shabby, game can clear 500k WW by years end (ship+digital)

Why am I not surprised by some of the comments in here and that this thread is still going pretty strong.

This is assuming people who bought an X would not have bought an x1s if not for the X.

If true, certainly helps put things in perspective.

Are these supposed to be sources?

You could ask yourself that same question for any of their consoles, really.  The answer is, they aren't cutting their sales short.  They are making sure the PS momentum continues.  As soon as interest starts to wane in the old console, then BAM! here's the new one.  Not only do the new systems sell well, but the old ones continue to sell well, too.  The PS1 still sold ~30M after the PS2 launched.  The PS2 sold 50M+ after the PS3 launched.  Again, the only outlier was the PS3. 

The reasons it didn't sell so well after the PS4 launched are many fold.  First, it wasn't quite the force the other PS systems were (which the PS4 is, again.)  Second, they weren't able to drop the price to $199 until after the PS4 launched, while the PS1 was $99 and the PS2 $129 when their successors were launched (the PS4 should at least be able to get down to $149.)  And third, the PS3 had an extended time on the market before the PS4 launched. If you the PS4 launched in 2012, and sales for the PS3 stayed similar, it would have done ~20M after the PS4 launched, as opposed to ~8M (I think Sony is going back to the model that worked best for them, a 6 year gen length.)

The fact is the people waiting to buy a PS4 at ~$149 are not the same people willing to buy a PS5 at $399.  I could see the PS4 easily hitting 20M+ after the PS5 launches, even if its in late 2019.

if it sells as good as it did this year in europe and US, then i would admit i was wrong.

I believe Sony needs to fix the launch date before designing the components for their PS5. They can't build a system on components coming out in 2021 and then release the system in 2020 after a sudden drop in PS4. or build a system on components of 2018 and then delay it by a year or two if they find PS4 doing pretty well. 

Definitely they have some flexibility in extending the design by lot of things get built around the specification of the hardware like compilers, IDEs, debugging units, game engines. So we can all argue on when Sony will be launching the PS5 but i m quite certain that Sony by now must have finalized the release year and components of the system. 

$249 slowly clawing it's way to the top of the Amazon hourlies, no where near as fast as the $199 1tb though. Gotta give props to Sony, they've cleverly handled this holiday season, I could see them winning December though not in as dominant fashion as Nov. 

Yeah, I thought they would have done a $199 which is what I thought they would do, so I can honestly see it doing well, but not as well as November.

You have any source saying it's 1.3m?

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