I completely understand that. But if it keeps being delayed this game will be irrelevant. specially a game so fixed on graphics. in a few more years after gen 9 starts power will be pointless as games now look so similar to the majority, at thouse higher specs very few will be impressed.

DNF was handed around, an existing IP that was already worked on by other teams, which is rather different to how this brand new IP is being handled. The way they have it planned out far exceeds what DNF had planned.

This is one diagram of their plans:

http://jolstatic.fr/www/captures/1895/1/123481.png

Also, just because DNF was in devlopement for a time, doesn't mean that all games with long dev plans are going to fail or die on the spot.

If it gets rushed, it'll easily be dog piled on for not being what it was marketing itself to be. We also do not know for sure that 9th gen is going to create hundreds of SC games, that are exactly the same in power and scope that SC is aiming for.

Very few are impressed with this game in general, even from day 1. Those that don't like the game aren't going to buy into it and continue to talk about the non defined release date.

Also, we've yet to take into account, that there are all kinds of devs out there who have spent years on their games, yet not telling a soul about it until release day, which also tends to give the impression that their games didn't take as long as people thought they would. MMO's, good MMO's aren't churned out within a year or two, they take years to form. WoW wasn't created overnight either, that game took some years to form itself.

Both Half-Life games had a rough development period.

Star Citizen is at least making good progress on the technology front.
People can, right now play and test a decent amount of core gameplay  tech features in their raw format.

If that will result in a well designed game, is still yet to be seen.
The game will at the bare minimum be a technical marvel for its time (even if the final release is overshadowed by another game, the early builds are unparalleled, right now).

How can you compare FF9 or Mass Effect 3 on PC with the latest games on consoles and claim its just cheaper on PC therefor?

FF9 for PS1 costs 15€ physical or 10€  digital for PS3, Mass effect 3 can be gotten for 3€ used on PS3. Not all of these 1000 steam games were full AAA games when you bought them.

I didnt know that Sony is charging us money constantly to play a Beta of that game.

Never said they did.

Downloading this game is a nightmare. Hope it finishes soon. I liked what i played so far.

Haha do you feel uncomfortable talking to me? 

You just pointed out that all games are AAA titles during their release, but this is true for consoles games like on PS3 or PS1 which i have mentioned above, which can be cheaper on their respective console.

There are a lot of ways getting comsole games cheaper on day 1. I got Nier Automata for 55€ by going for a UK version or Tekken 7 for 50€ digital from the UK PSN store, as their currency is less worth now (they normally cost 70€).

In the US there is Best Buys Gamers Club Unlocked that makes new games cost 20% less, so 48$ instead of 60$. So no there are plenty of opportunities in getting games cheaper, especially later on when they are PSN/XBL sales and also more used games available.

Thats ridiculous for a single game budget. Theres no way the final product will live up to the hype. Can someone give me a lowdown of whats going on with the game right now. Does it have a release date or what?

PC Gaming is Dying.

Yeah. The microtransactions are bullshit.

I am going to personally wait for the proper full release and then jump in, I have zero intention of paying for anything else other than the base game.

Indeed. With the current negative climate in regards to microtransactions/loot boxes, companies need to tread carefully at the moment... Or suffer the wrath of wallets closing as EA found out the hard way.

Chazore said: Can't rush progress though. Not like most AAA devs do these days within 1-2 years

Game was supposed to be out in 2017 if their original campaign was to go by... But then as their funding increased and feature creep set-in... And then they had to do massive rewrites to CryEngine... Well. Development time has blown out, which was entirely expected.

And I don't mind a release being delayed if we get a better product out of it... Chris Roberts has my trust as he made some of my favorite space games.  (Freelancer, Starlancer, Wing Commander.)

It is. People are spending a ton of Microtransactions. (Ships, land etc'.)
But PC Gaming can also be expensive, more expensive than any console if you opt for the best.

Have you played any of the modules?

Have you played any of the prior games that Chris Roberts was a part of? You should give them a try, it might just change your mind.

New released PC games are generally $10-$20 cheaper than their console counterpart.
Also... If you ever buy a PC game at full price, then you truly are silly and you are doing it wrong, there is always a sale on somewhere.

PC gaming is indeed cheaper than console, if you are smart about it, this argument has been done to death and the math already presented.

Playstation Network/Xbox live sales doesn't hold a candle to a Steam sale. Steam is in another league entirely.
But you want to know something? Steam isn't the only place to buy PC games.

Well. It's budget does place it above games like Destiny and Grand Theft Auto IV... Making it the 5th largest game development budget of all time. - But still behind the likes of StarWars: The Old Republic, Final Fantasy 7, Grand Theft Auto 5, Modern Warfare 2 when adjusted for inflation.
However... That budget is still increasing.

At the moment, there is no release date for the full game, they are essentially building the game in "chunks" and releasing them in a staggered release... Which is where the Hype is coming from... As gamers are actually able to play portions of the game and see where it's going.

Will it live up to the hype? Who knows. But considering how much I adored Starlancer, Wing Commander and Freelancer, I'm expecting a fun game either way.