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Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577
Errorist76 said:
MrRoops said:

Interestingly enough they have much lower rapes stats then you lol.  So wtf are you blabbering about, some typical nazi like ignorance there about your neighbour.  

2015 In absolute terms, police in England & Wales* recorded the highest number of violent sexual offences (64 500, of which 35 800 rapes – 55%), followed by Germany (34 300, of which 7 000 rapes – 20%),

unfortunately for german girls this stats have skyrocket since then, Merkles migrants have not been behaving themselves.  

Seem you are the one brainwashed.  

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Germany/United-States/Crime

 

Didnt take me long to find. What I'm saying is even with a noticeable and understandable increase in 2016 we’re still much safer over here.

nice numbers 8 years old lol.  Crimes in germany have Skyrocketed since then. 

So you own up Germany has more than double the rape then Poland ? and near 5 times higher serious assault and 8 time shigher assaults.  since you didn't dare rebut me at all lol.  

WTF is wrong with you overly violent nation ? is it modern nazism or islam.



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bdbdbd said:
Errorist76 said:

 

LMAO...please...go to UK and ask the Brits today what they think about it!

 

If anything UK has become weaker than it ever was.

Nah, I stick to what they voted for. You don't know why they voted for brexit? It was because the brits thought they had no say in their own matters - which is true. Technically you're right about UK being weaker, but that's only temporary, as change takes it's toll. In a decade they're likely more influential than they ever could have been in the EU. 

CosmicSex said:
It's just hate group thought. I have Hatian roommates and they are very good hard working people who contribute much as anyone else. Why are they here? Maybe they are here for a better life. Maybe they are here because they lost everything in a disaster. Why would we let someone like him dictate who can be here. Maybe Trumps family immigrated here to escape their own shithole. Either way, picking on these people when millions upon millions have come here from everywhere is racist, hateful and not based on personal merit.

I'm quite sure the "millions upon millions" aren't all good hard-working people. There's a difference between people when looked individually, than there is when looked in groups. If you'd had some sort of filter so, that you could let in the good hard-working people, and to leave out the people who cause trouble, I'm sure immigration would be seen as a more positive thing - and it is, when the immigrant has succeeded finacially and is running away the higher taxes. 

So, who should it be to decide then who's let in and who's left out?

Why is it racist to pick on these millions upon millions who have come to US? 

The millions upon millions I was referring to are the people like Trump family who came here with nothing.  They had opportunity here so they left their home and came here to make a better life and in doing so they drives this country forward.  That is the history of this country.  

 

Everything else you say leads back to the idea that others are more worthy than others.  And that's what lead to this country in the first place.  



Flilix said:
Final-Fan said:

You recalled incorrectly. 

Do you have a link to that thread?

Oh, I thought that "poll a year ago" was a reference to the actual election.  My mistake; you may be correctly recalling whatever thread poll you are thinking of. 



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Final-Fan said:
Flilix said:

Do you have a link to that thread?

Oh, I thought that "poll a year ago" was a reference to the actual election.  My mistake; you may be correctly recalling whatever thread poll you are thinking of. 

No, I was referring to a poll in a thread on this site. It was close, but there were more people who voted Trump than Hillary. Yet in this thread, 70% sais that they never liked Trump.



MrRoops said: 

WTF is wrong with you overly violent nation ? is it modern nazism or islam.

I have no idea where the myth comes from that Europe is so dangerous, but it's still the safest continent in the world.

Germany is the 14th safest country for travelers: https://safearound.com/danger-rankings/

It's also 16th on the global peace index (US is 114th): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index



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Very disappointed. On this day, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr day, we have South Africa issuing a diplomatic protest because of Trump "shithole" comment.



I absolutely love trump.

He has been the entertainment that never stops giving.
I literally cannot believe the yanks elected such a self-loathing, ignorant, clown.




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Errorist76 said:
MrRoops said:

Yep thousand girls assaulted raped molested in a single city in a single night.

So safe.  

 

That was one incident, a planned event from mostly people not even living in Germany, let alone refugees. You’re brainwashed by your Trump propaganda. You should really compare crime rates, actually every European state’s crime rates (except Poland maybe, singling out Russia) has a much much (like by a factor 4 or so) lower crime, rape and homocide rate than the United States.

By your logic, from our perspective the US looks like quite the shithole as well. A country governed by this lunatic definitely seems to be in deep shit by itself.

Itse does Look like a shithole, but Trump hardly has anything to do with it. 

CosmicSex said:
bdbdbd said:

Nah, I stick to what they voted for. You don't know why they voted for brexit? It was because the brits thought they had no say in their own matters - which is true. Technically you're right about UK being weaker, but that's only temporary, as change takes it's toll. In a decade they're likely more influential than they ever could have been in the EU. 

I'm quite sure the "millions upon millions" aren't all good hard-working people. There's a difference between people when looked individually, than there is when looked in groups. If you'd had some sort of filter so, that you could let in the good hard-working people, and to leave out the people who cause trouble, I'm sure immigration would be seen as a more positive thing - and it is, when the immigrant has succeeded finacially and is running away the higher taxes. 

So, who should it be to decide then who's let in and who's left out?

Why is it racist to pick on these millions upon millions who have come to US? 

The millions upon millions I was referring to are the people like Trump family who came here with nothing.  They had opportunity here so they left their home and came here to make a better life and in doing so they drives this country forward.  That is the history of this country.  

 

Everything else you say leads back to the idea that others are more worthy than others.  And that's what lead to this country in the first place.

Why do you think these people should be entitled to come to USA, for example? Do you think they deserve to live in a civil society? Do you think people like you and me deserve to live in a civil society? If said yes to all, we both think alike.

One duty of a government is to protect it's citizens. This is why governments have monopoly on violence. But this protection is done, not only by removing the harmful people from society, also by not letting harmful people to enter the country. If we don't have a way to filter these harmful people, then we have to have an immigration policy so strict, that don't easilly let people in.

Essentially we're talking about the government's duties, and the only people to disagreeing here, are the extremists that want to deny the existence of the government.

If you really want to help people, hou need to help them before they need to leave their homes.



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Flilix said:
MrRoops said: 

WTF is wrong with you overly violent nation ? is it modern nazism or islam.

I have no idea where the myth comes from that Europe is so dangerous, but it's still the safest continent in the world.

Germany is the 14th safest country for travelers: https://safearound.com/danger-rankings/

It's also 16th on the global peace index (US is 114th): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index

Because of fake news?

Peter Hoekstra, the newly minted U.S. ambassador to the Netherlands, held his first news conference with the Dutch media at his new residence in The Hague on Wednesday.

It did not go well.

Dutch journalists peppered Hoekstra with questions on unsubstantiated claims he made in 2015 about chaos that the “Islamic movement” had allegedly brought to the Netherlands.

“There are cars being burned. There are politicians that are being burned,” he said then, at a conference hosted by a conservative group. “And yes, there are no-go zones in the Netherlands.”

The comments have widely been described as inaccurate, and seem to reflect certain conspiracy theories about sharia law that crop up in some circles of the far-right in the West. When pressed by the Dutch reporters, Hoekstra declined to retract the comments or give specific examples to back them up.

In fact, after saying that he would not be “revisiting the issue,” he simply refused to answer the question at all.

But the reporters were not done with the line of questioning. Instead of moving on, another reporter would simply ask a variation of the query again.

“Everybody there had one question: That crazy statement you made, are you going to withdraw it?” Roel Geeraedts, a political reporter at the Dutch television station RTL Nieuws, said in a phone interview about the event. “We were not getting answers, so we all kept asking it.”

Geeraedts published a segment with video of the remarkable exchange on social media.

Today Dutch press welcomed @petehoekstra as new ambassador to the Netherlands. In 2015 Hoekstra said Dutch"politicians are being burned" (not true). The only one who did get burned today is... Hoekstra himself. By refusing to answer our questions.

 

After at least one person had already asked the question, Geeraedts followed up to ask Hoekstra about a John Adams quote — Adams was America's first ambassador to Holland — that was mounted right behind the new ambassador.

Hoekstra said he had read the quote, which expresses Adams's hope that only “honest and wise men ever rule under this roof.”

“If you’re truly an honest and wise man, could you please take back the remark about burned politicians or name the politician that was burned in the Netherlands?” Geeraedts asked.

An uncomfortable silence followed the question.

“Thank you,” Hoekstra said, before trying to call on someone else over the clamor of the reporters in the room.

“Excuse me, I asked you a question,” Geeraedts said.

Another journalist jumped in.

“Mr. Ambassador, can you mention any example of a Dutch politician who was burned in recent years?”

Again, silence, as Hoekstra stared around the room.

“This is the Netherlands — you have to answer questions,” another reporter said.

Sherry Keneson-Hall, an embassy counselor who was helping to run the news conference, pushed back, asserting that Hoekstra was answering the questions.

At least one more journalist repeated the question. Reporters asked it at least five times.

“We were all astonished that he didn’t want to take back the comment. It was simply untrue, so why not take it back?” Geeraedts said. “It was awkward, to be honest.”

Hoekstra was tapped by Trump for the ambassadorship after 18 years as a Republican congressman from Michigan and was confirmed by the Senate in November.

He has been in hot water in the Netherlands since he was confronted by a Dutch journalist, Wouter Zwart, about the remarks in December. Hoekstra falsely claimed to Zwart that he had never made the remarks and called them “fake news.” Moments later, he denied that he had called them fake news.

Video of the exchange, juxtaposed with his “no-go zone” remarks, went viral, and the episode drew a slew of critical headlines in the United States and the Netherlands.

Just perfect.
Dutch journalist to new US Ambassador: you said there were 'no go zones' in Netherlands, where are they?
Ambassador: That's fake news, I didn't say that
Journalist: We can show you that clip now.
Ambassador: Err

 

Hoekstra's silence when faced with reporters' questions on Wednesday drew a similar response.

“Embarrassing performance from controversial ambassador,” read a Web headline at De Telegraaf, one of the country’s largest newspapers. “Ambassador Hoekstra lost his way again in The Hague,” read another. “Very uncomfortable meeting between ambassador and journalists,” went RTL Nieuws.

Hoekstra on Wednesday pointed to the public regrets that he had expressed after the exchange with Zwart. But he did not clarify whether the apology was meant to include the no-go zone comments when asked. At one point, he seemed to indicate that he was most concerned about the interview, not the statements.

“It is not about my personal views anymore. This is about the views on the policies of the United States of America as directed by this administration,” he said. “One interview is not going to have an impact. The other thing I just want to reinforce — this relationship has been maintained by countless people over the last 400 years. This is not about me.”

CNN report published this week documented multiple times that Hoekstra has referred to “no-go zones” in European cities during appearances on conservative media, including talk radio and a print op-ed, and other instances in which he had fueled conspiracy theories about Muslims.

He speculated that some 10 to 15 percent of the Muslim community in the world — 270 million people — were radical Islamist militants and appeared to imply that former Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin had “egregious” ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, a claim that Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler, and other publications, have determined to be “bogus.”

On another far-right show, Hoekstra said he had considered the possibility that President Barack Obama might be intentionally aiding the rise of Muslim extremists.

On Thursday, State Department spokeswoman Joanne Moore referred questions about Hoekstra to the statement he made in December.

Geeraedts said he believed that Hoekstra’s behavior confirmed some suspicions the Dutch have about the Trump administration.

“A lot of Dutch people have seen the press conferences of the White House and seen how some questions are not answered,” he said. “Everybody knows about ‘alternative facts.' And this fits that picture.”

He said that the press corps' unwillingness to let the question go was a spontaneous response, adding that he had seen a similar tactic employed on a smaller scale when Dutch politicians gave evasive answers to direct questions. But he said politics in the Netherlands differs a bit from the current situation in the United States.

 

“In the Netherlands, you don’t get a straight-up answer if you ask straight-up questions,” he said. “But you hardly get false answers.”

Link https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/01/10/trumps-ambassador-to-netherlands-was-asked-to-name-a-person-burned-because-of-islam-he-couldnt/?utm_term=.6281b522ff12






MrRoops said:
Errorist76 said:

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Germany/United-States/Crime

 

Didnt take me long to find. What I'm saying is even with a noticeable and understandable increase in 2016 we’re still much safer over here.

nice numbers 8 years old lol.  Crimes in germany have Skyrocketed since then. 

So you own up Germany has more than double the rape then Poland ? and near 5 times higher serious assault and 8 time shigher assaults.  since you didn't dare rebut me at all lol.  

WTF is wrong with you overly violent nation ? is it modern nazism or islam.

 

Skyrocketed....Quoting Trump again. Violent Nation?! Modern Nazism?! Again, since you seem to be bad in comprehension.....the US!!! The country you seem to live in HAS A HIGHER CRIME AND RAPE RATE...MUCH HIGHER EVEN! You're a hypocrite. 
So if it's islam or nazism here...what is it in the US?!!

When a country takes in millions of poor refugees, no matter the religion they believe in, OF COURSE crime rates are going to rise for a certain amount of time. Especially when the country, like Sweden or Germany, has been a VERY safe place before. 

Those numbers have greatly reduced since then, a sign that our functioning social system and society is able to compensate it. THE WORST thing about the whole situation is, THAT THOSE COUNTRIES, WHICH MAINLY CAUSED ALL THIS SHIT IN THOSE COUNTRIES, THE US AND UK above all, have refused to help those people and even make fun about the situation or use it for their own benefits. It's disgusting that a country founded by immigrants, LED BY A MORON with IMMIGRANT (even GERMAN) roots, is even acting like this. Despicable.

 

Flilix said: 
Final-Fan said: 

Oh, I thought that "poll a year ago" was a reference to the actual election.  My mistake; you may be correctly recalling whatever thread poll you are thinking of. 

No, I was referring to a poll in a thread on this site. It was close, but there were more people who voted Trump than Hillary. Yet in this thread, 70% sais that they never liked Trump.

More people voted for Hillary, not Trump. That's a fact.

Among younger people, those people preferably visiting this website, Trump was never even a competition. It was mainly elder, angry males who voted for him. Need to respect the demographics.

http://www.businessinsider.de/exit-polls-who-voted-for-trump-clinton-2016-11?r=US&IR=T#/#more-women-voted-for-clinton-as-expected-but-trump-still-got-42-of-female-votes-1

 

Flilix said: 
MrRoops said: 

WTF is wrong with you overly violent nation ? is it modern nazism or islam.

I have no idea where the myth comes from that Europe is so dangerous, but it's still the safest continent in the world.

Germany is the 14th safest country for travelers: https://safearound.com/danger-rankings/

It's also 16th on the global peace index (US is 114th): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index

Azzanation was clearly quoting Trump rallys! Trump, the cry-baby queen of fake news.

Last edited by Errorist76 - on 15 January 2018