CommandoII said:
Immersiveunreality said:
First bolded:After they are born? Can you eleborate or do you have a link to some information on that cause i find it hard to believe that would happen to healthy babies.
Second bolded: Every group has radical people in it, to claim it mirrors to all of them is untrue and shuts down conversation.
Third bolded: You never fully stop anything but it might discourage people from using a gun and it might give them more time to overthink what they're about to do if it will be harder to own a gun in case of some mental breakdown shootings .
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to reply to First bolded.
By definition (found on Wikipedia (so not MY interp. or any others):
A similar procedure after the fetus could potentially survive outside the womb is known as a "late termination of pregnancy" or less accurately as a "late term abortion"
^why they are saying baby murder.
Late term and the new after term abortion IS in actuality INFANTICIDE. n Just because people feel like calling it something else; to make themselves feel better, does not change what it is.
My son was born after 5 months of pregnancy, he lived for 4 days, and had all his organs fingers and toes and responded to my voice. He IS my son, He HAD full life, He WAS not a 'fetus' without life.
beyond that: Unless the moderator deleted it, He never called anyone a libtard. That accusation came out of thin air. I read through the extremely long post multiple times (not gonna repost that: too long) - can't remember who was who at this point.
Update on NK: I'm glad Trump didn't rush to a deal.
Update on who I support: I joined the Yang camp for 2020. This is where my political concepts align at this time.
I am glad that Trump: signed a bill to improve the VA; said Common core was a disaster (did nothing yet; Betsy D. is an insult to all things on Earth, including the platapus)
I don't think he is worse than Obama, I don't think he's really all that better either.
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I am sorry for your son and i wish you if you do not already have, a healthy child in future.
Ok yeah i get why they call it late term abortion(calling something openly infanticide would not give it practice a good image with the wider public) and why it is done to prevent further suffering in some cases.
Part of the wikipedia page:
As of 1998, among the 152 most populous countries, 54 either banned abortion entirely or permitted it only to save the life of the pregnant woman.[22]
In addition, 49 of the 152 most populous countries were without restriction as to reason, but 44 of these imposed limits after a particular gestational age:[22]
- 12 weeks (Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cuba, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Georgia, Greece, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyz Rep., Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Mongolia, Norway, Russian Federation, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Ukraine, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan)
- 13 weeks (Italy)
- 14 weeks (Austria, Cambodia, Germany, Hungary, and Romania)
- 18 weeks (Sweden)
- 22 weeks (North Macedonia)
- 24 weeks (Singapore)
- no limit (Canada, China, and North Korea)
- viability (Netherlands and to some extent the United States)
In these countries, abortions after the general gestational age limit are allowed only under restricted circumstances, which include, depending on country, risk to the woman's life, physical or mental health, fetal malformation, cases where the pregnancy was the result of rape, or poor socio-economic conditions. For instance, in Italy, abortion is allowed on request up until 90 days, after which it is allowed only if the pregnancy or childbirth pose a threat to the woman’s life, a risk to physical health of the woman, a risk to mental health of the woman; if there is a risk of fetal malformation; or if the pregnancy is the result of rape or other sexual crime.[23] Denmark provides a wider range of reasons, including social and economic ones, which can be invoked by a woman who seeks an abortion after 12 weeks.[24] Abortions at such stages must in general be approved by a doctor or a special committee, unlike early abortions which are performed on demand. The ease with which the doctor or the committee allows a late term abortion varies significantly by country, and is often influenced by the social and religious views prevalent in that region.
Some countries, like Canada, China (Mainland only) and Vietnam have no legal limit on when an abortion can be performed.[22]
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So yeah its not like anyone can do this freely and its purpose is to avoid suffering,to be against it is to put life above suffering.
Anyway people that are highly against it should go have a look into a nursing home for the heavily handicapped,a lot of them just do not have a good life and are unhappy and lonely with their prolife parents never coming to visit.
(3) organizations using allocated charity funds for bidding and rigging a private auction in favor of the organization itself. Probably a lot of gray area there. 
