The pedo's were during Obama's term and so were the court cases and changes based on the court rulings, after the Obama admins original implementation, which led to the pedo problem to begin with.
He wasn't saying there are pedos.
What "pedo's" were there during Obama's term?
The ones they're talking about below. It didn't happen during Trump, it was only brought to light by the media and 'accidentally' used against Trump during the whole separating migrant kids and cages debacle. BoldV
CaptainExplosion said:
Are you fucking serious?
Suppose you'd also like to hire pedophiles to guard the migrant children he locked up too, or have the EPA dump oil on the coral reefs, or have transgender soldiers put to death.
After all, your "president" has gotten away with all sorts of shitty actions in office, he might as well do what I described above.
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The ones they're talking about below. It didn't happen during Trump, it was only brought to light by the media and 'accidentally' used against Trump during the whole separating migrant kids and cages debacle. BoldV
CaptainExplosion said:
Are you fucking serious?
Suppose you'd also like to hire pedophiles to guard the migrant children he locked up too, or have the EPA dump oil on the coral reefs, or have transgender soldiers put to death.
After all, your "president" has gotten away with all sorts of shitty actions in office, he might as well do what I described above.
You have no room to talk, seeing how Trump was the one who supported a serial child molester for Congress (who thankfully lost).
Oh and BTW: Alabama has no statute of limitations for statutory rape, so throw his sick ass in prison where he'll get some of that and more thrown back at him (we all know how much prisoners HATE pedophiles).
Victorlink87 said: Economically he isn't perfect, but overall better than most presidents. (I lean right here in most ways)
Is he, though? He punched a $1.7 trillion hole in the deficit IN ONE YEAR! And took away programs for the lower and middle class (including medicare and medicaid which he repeatedly said he wasn't going to) to benefit the wealthy and overspent on the military. He also sent the stock market into a tailspin with his terrible tarriffs. The only reason the economy isn't tanking (yet) is because he inherited a strong economy from Obama which he shamelessly tried to take credit for and is now desperately trying to find a way to blame the Dems on when the Dow Jones started going South.
Didn't the U.S. Gov lose an estimated 5-11 billion during the shutdown? Isn't Trump asking for 5-6 billion for the wall? So the Dems would rather burn that money instead of use it to add more useful protection for it's citizens, just to make a political move? Good to know they're working for the people.
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The ones they're talking about below. It didn't happen during Trump, it was only brought to light by the media and 'accidentally' used against Trump during the whole separating migrant kids and cages debacle. BoldV
You have no room to talk, seeing how Trump was the one who supported a serial child molester for Congress (who thankfully lost).
Oh and BTW: Alabama has no statute of limitations for statutory rape, so throw his sick ass in prison where he'll get some of that and more thrown back at him (we all know how much prisoners HATE pedophiles).
Gotcha. So I have no room to talk because Trump knowingly did something bad based on a somewhat similar subject apparently, so you have no room to talk because of what Obama did, so nobody get's to talk, we all just get to sit and be mad at each other. At least we can be happy while we sit and agree with our respective MSM programming.
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The ones they're talking about below. It didn't happen during Trump, it was only brought to light by the media and 'accidentally' used against Trump during the whole separating migrant kids and cages debacle. BoldV
Based on his examples, I was under the impression that they were all hypothetical, not things that actually happened.
I'm not seeing any articles where it was supposedly used against Trump. Just older articles about Obama.
That's a taste, and where this started was with the migrant kid pedo lies that were brought up about Trumps border detainment decisions. A lot more on social media.
the-pi-guy said:
EricHiggin said:
Didn't the U.S. Gov lose an estimated 5-11 billion during the shutdown? Isn't Trump asking for 5-6 billion for the wall? So the Dems would rather burn that money instead of use it to add more useful protection for it's citizens, just to make a political move? Good to know they're working for the people.
You can't blame Dems on it.
You can blame both sides.
Or heck, just blame McConnell. Republicans and Democrats both put together bills to open up the government, and voted very strongly in favor of it. Except McConnell wouldn't let it go to a vote again.
Yes both are to blame to some degree. Don't you find it odd however that the one thing the President themselves wants more than anything, the super cheap item relative to the rest, that his voters are asking for, can't and won't ever be had apparently, because the opposition who absolutely despises him, won't let it happen under any circumstances?
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That's a taste, and where this started was with the migrant kid pedo lies that were brought up about Trumps border detainment decisions. A lot more on social media.
the-pi-guy said:
You can't blame Dems on it.
You can blame both sides.
Or heck, just blame McConnell. Republicans and Democrats both put together bills to open up the government, and voted very strongly in favor of it. Except McConnell wouldn't let it go to a vote again.
Yes both are to blame to some degree. Don't you find it odd however that the one thing the President themselves wants more than anything, the super cheap item relative to the rest, that his voters are asking for, can't and won't ever be had apparently, because the opposition who absolutely despises him, won't let it happen under any circumstances?
Don't you think it's odd that he didn't get this super cheap item all his voters asked for when his party controlled every branch of government?
That's a taste, and where this started was with the migrant kid pedo lies that were brought up about Trumps border detainment decisions. A lot more on social media.
Yes both are to blame to some degree. Don't you find it odd however that the one thing the President themselves wants more than anything, the super cheap item relative to the rest, that his voters are asking for, can't and won't ever be had apparently, because the opposition who absolutely despises him, won't let it happen under any circumstances?
Don't you think it's odd that he didn't get this super cheap item all his voters asked for when his party controlled every branch of government?
Ya I do. Which is why I wonder about the constant Trump bashing and not the Senators or Congressmen. Trump seems to be doing everything he can to try and make a deal happen, and yet he's the only one who tends to get blamed, or at least the overwhelming majority. Mitch has gotten a small amount of attention. Trump was also asking for much more back then if I remember correctly.
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Victorlink87 said: Economically he isn't perfect, but overall better than most presidents. (I lean right here in most ways)
Is he, though? He punched a $1.7 trillion hole in the deficit (a 6-year high) IN ONE YEAR! And took away programs for the lower and middle class (including medicare and medicaid which he repeatedly said he wasn't going to) to benefit the wealthy and overspent on the military. He also sent the stock market into a tailspin with his terrible tarriffs. The only reason the economy isn't tanking (yet) is because he inherited a strong economy from Obama which he shamelessly tried to take credit for and is now desperately trying to find a way to blame the Dems on when the Dow Jones started going South.
This vid by Robert Reich explains it best:
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And it’s not polling. Trump re-opened government about 3 hours after the labour unions gave him an ultimatum. Basically it was reopen or they were going to smack him with strikes. They won’t hesitate for over a month the next time Trump takes a tantrum.
Also, trying the exact same thing and expecting a different result is, you know...
Trump’s “Art of the deal” has the grace and beauty of a retarded kindergartener doing finger painting. On paper, nothing happens except one big mess of shit. In reality, the shit is getting all over everyone’s stuff.
IKR? If his approval rating dropping 6 points and his party getting blamed for the shutdown is "well played", then his supporters got played like a fiddle!
Yes actually. Obama helped get us out of a recession and lay a good foundation, but later floundered and stagnated.
The medicare, medicaid, and social security cuts are widely misunderstood and misrepresented. The savings from the cuts of federal money went to the states to allow them to fund those programs. It worked, I have low income relatives in the poorest state in our union and they went completely untouched. However, not every state used their allotment well.
The racking up of debt was partly his fault and partly congress' inability to budget. He has maintained par with Obama in this area.
The stock market has little to do with the economy unless its massive growth or shrinkage. That being said 2017 saw a 20% increase and 2018 saw a 20+% increase. The tariffs hurt, but not as much as I thought. Are the tariffs a good idea? I sincerely do not think so.
2018 by the numbers:
GDP: up 3.5% In the modern age this number is strong.
Unemployement: 3.7% lowest in 50 years
Dollar value: up 2% (strongest in years, but weaker than our peak)
Average income: $62,000 up $6,000 from two years prior
2017-2018: 4.7 million jobs created. (Perspective: Obama had around 8 million) they both suck in comparison to Bill Clinton though.
Labor participation: up .2% ( though this isnt great and has never been good in the 21st century)
Cost of living: up .5% over 2016
Oil independence: resulting in stabilized gas prices that have been lower than anything consistent in 10 years.
Average hourly rate in US: $27 up $2 from 2016
Tax cuts for...wait for it. All brackets except the lowest, which stayed at 10%, saw a cut including my own. Which has resulted in greater spending power in the US economy. Some companies used this cut selfishly, others gave employees raises or bonuses.
Without Obama Trump doesn't have a strong economy. Without Trump's policies we remain stagnant and see slower growth like in 2016.
Listen, I do not like him, but he has done some good in the economy. I do think his stubborness about the wall may cost us a lot of that growth
Obama's economy was good, but slowed. we needed him after '08. Trump's economy has been outstanding thanks to a good foundation, but it took him and his policies to push it forward.
Don't you think it's odd that he didn't get this super cheap item all his voters asked for when his party controlled every branch of government?
Ya I do. Which is why I wonder about the constant Trump bashing and not the Senators or Congressmen. Trump seems to be doing everything he can to try and make a deal happen, and yet he's the only one who tends to get blamed, or at least the overwhelming majority. Mitch has gotten a small amount of attention. Trump was also asking for much more back then if I remember correctly.
This is a fair view. Trump has tried to deal and offer compromise. The congressmen have been the stubborn ones here. Though why Trump didnt push sooner is a fair question that he should answer.
Ya I do. Which is why I wonder about the constant Trump bashing and not the Senators or Congressmen. Trump seems to be doing everything he can to try and make a deal happen, and yet he's the only one who tends to get blamed, or at least the overwhelming majority. Mitch has gotten a small amount of attention. Trump was also asking for much more back then if I remember correctly.
This is a fair view. Trump has tried to deal and offer compromise. The congressmen have been the stubborn ones here. Though why Trump didnt push sooner is a fair question that he should answer.
I remember Trump saying early on in his Presidency that the party thought items such as healthcare should take priority and the wall was pushed to the bottom of the list. It's also possible the party figured they would retain majority of all branches of Gov so the wall would come sooner or later. It's also possible that the party figured the Dems would rather help with healthcare if they gained power like they have now, and wouldn't want to play ball with the wall, which would help make the Dems and Trump both look bad. It's not like the Reps are just going to allow Trump a second term entirely uncontested.
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