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Forums - Sales - Japan sales (Week 47): Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - November 20-26, 2017

NoCtiS_NoX said:
Famitsu Up

Your threads are blowing up! Getting those easy vgc points!



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Why are the numbers so different for Pokemon between Media Create and Famitsu

One includes sales of digital cards sold.



Jranation said:
Wyrdness said:
The way some have reacted to Switch numbers this week I can only imagine the heart attacks they will have when Pokemon arrives.

If Animal Crossing comes first...... I dont know if they're still alive for Pokemon. 

Not too mention the are still IPs like Tomodachi, Smash and such as well which would end their life support if they survived some how, seriously the impression I got from reading this thread was some logging in and seeing the numbers and looking at the screen like:



Kerotan said:
zorg1000 said:

Japan numbers are shit

With statements like that do you expect people to take you seriously?

Do you expect people to take you seriously when you say PS4 sales in Japan are amazing?



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OTBWY said:
Nautilus said:

Because the Switch is not a handheld, its a hybrid.And then it will start all that discussion about if it is or not.Just let it re4st.

You see, his tactic is to de-legitimize the Switch as real competition to the PS4 by calling it a handheld only. That's a new tactic by Nintendo haters.

While the Switch is a hybrid (and should be treated as such, both when it's to its advantages and when it makes it look bad), it's fair to say that they're currently competing more like home console vs handheld than home console vs home console. Despite the Switch's significant success, it's had little visible effect on the PS4's global sales. That makes sense too. The Switch's biggest hardware selling point over the PS4 is portability, and the handheld market has a big vacuum to fill.

Things might change over time, but at least for now the PS4 and Switch are doing a good job of being successful without stepping on each others toes much.



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Jranation said:

Wheres your sources? 

If it's about the power thing on hybrids I can post some links here. If you mean the market distribution, Nintendo is the only one with a good share of games rated E, so it's obvious that this market is dominated by them. It doesn't mean that it is the majority of their base.

I'm also curious about the mean ages and more details about the demography. If found that in the US they have a similar demography to PS4/X1. But that doesn't explain why it isn't stealing sales from the other 2 consoles, it is clear that it either appeals to a different market or people that buy it also buy a PS4/X1. Some may argue that it is selling to the handheld crowd, but I don't buy this argument due to the high price. It is selling as a home console (with extra portability).  It could be casual players too (Wii crowd upgrading).



zorg1000 said:
Kerotan said:

With statements like that do you expect people to take you seriously?

Do you expect people to take you seriously when you say PS4 sales in Japan are amazing?

I basically wrote him same thing.



No more derailing, if anyone wants to discuss Playstations success in Japan please do so on Kerotans thread.



Zekkyou said:
OTBWY said:

You see, his tactic is to de-legitimize the Switch as real competition to the PS4 by calling it a handheld only. That's a new tactic by Nintendo haters.

While the Switch is a hybrid (and should be treated as such, both when it's to its advantages and when it makes it look bad), it's fair to say that they're currently competing more like home console vs handheld than home console vs home console. Despite the Switch's significant success, it's had little visible effect on the PS4's global sales. That makes sense too. The Switch's biggest hardware selling point over the PS4 is portability, and the handheld market has a big vacuum to fill.

Things might change over time, but at least for now the PS4 and Switch are doing a good job of being successful without stepping on each others toes much.

Disagree. The Switch is most certainly competing with the PS4. The form factor (which is hybrid, so it is also a home console) doesn't mean anything since there are games that are the type of games you could find also on the PS4. What do I mean by that, it means that when for example Dragon Quest comes out for both consoles, they are in competition from a consumer standpoint. Besides, we don't know if the Switch is eating into the PS4's sales up or down. According to Nintendo themselves, people who have a switch play docked as much as portable, so it doesn't make sense to look at it as a handheld only.

The only reason that someone like Megiddo says that it's just a handheld, is to make it seems that Nintendo lost the home console war. He is willing to concede that Sony lost the handheld market, because the home console market is more important to him. It's console warz 101. I have heard similar nonsense about it recently, such as the Switch not counting as competition to PS4 and Xbox One, because it's 9th gen. It's ridiculous.



xl-klaudkil said:
Wow all the hate against ps4 and the trying to downplay the absolutely amazing switch sales!

Noo switch wont grab games away from ps4.
Noo ps4 wont go away.
And yes switch will destroy all competition in japan, rhe hybrid feature is just perfect

I actually agree with you, however I will only focus on the very hilarious discount argument. It still makes me laugh.