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Forums - Sales - Japan sales (Week 47): Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - November 20-26, 2017

Lawlight on 29 November 2017
SpokenTruth said:
Lawlight said:

What are you talking about? Where does it say $100 for any purchases over $400? You’re killing me here. The Switch’s price is usually $469. The  discount was $100. He added SMO which was $67. He then used the Amex discount to further reduce the price to $336.

You are hilarious - so hell bent on defending the discount that you didn’t even read properly.

Again - the actual price is $469.

Yes, he used an American Express card to get a $100 discount on a purchase of over $400.  This applies to ALL purchases.  That is NOT a discount on Switch itself.  It's a discount on all purchases over $400.  Including PS4 or anything else you put in your cart.

He could have purchased $400 worth of packs of bubble gum and he would have received a $100 discount for using his AMEX card.  Are you going to say bubble gum got a $100 discount now?

Again - where are you seeing anything about purchase over $400?

Mate, I’ll say it again to you - the Switch’s actual price is $469. How do you think he got the Switch and SMO for $336 if he only got $100? You can deflect with bubble gums if you want but I’d like to see your maths on how a $100 discount using Amex results in $536 being reduced to $336.



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irstupid on 29 November 2017
radishhead said:
abronn627 said:

Using october 14th because we have hardware and software, UK is behind France and Germany for 2017.

Not sure if using one week is the best measure, probably best to look at the entire year once it's over to get a better idea (especially since UK Christmas numbers are historically a very large percentage of yearly sales, even by the standards of the industry)

Read below, he used the whole year up to Oct 14th.

abronn627 said:
zorg1000 said:

Not sure i know what you're saying. You used just the week ending Oct 14th or the whole year up to Oct 14th?

I used the yearly total up to october 14th since it’s the latest we have for both categories. What’s the actual state today, I don’t know and I can only speculate.


Megiddo on 29 November 2017
OTBWY said:
Lawlight said:

Sony is a Japanese based company but the game studios are based in the west. The head of Sony Japan Studio is western, the PS4 designer is western. Software sales, on consoles, surely the UK software sales are higher.

I cannot fight against this type of damage control. It's outside the realm of reality at this point. Do you truly, honestly, believe than Sony can do without Japan? Really?

We have worldwide sales numbers that show that they can. 



Lawlight on 29 November 2017
SpokenTruth said:
tbone51 said:

I dont think bubble gum got a $100 price cut during its first year so there is no comparison

New flavor this year....troll.  Same discount.  $100 off.

I cannot wait to see how your maths works out.



Lawlight on 29 November 2017
OTBWY said:
Lawlight said:

Sony is a Japanese based company but the game studios are based in the west. The head of Sony Japan Studio is western, the PS4 designer is western. Software sales, on consoles, surely the UK software sales are higher.

I cannot fight against this type of damage control. It's outside the realm of reality at this point. Do you truly, honestly, believe than Sony can do without Japan? Really?

Facts show that they can.



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Lawlight on 29 November 2017
SpokenTruth said:
Lawlight said:

Again - where are you seeing anything about purchase over $400?

Mate, I’ll say it again to you - the Switch’s actual price is $469. How do you think he got the Switch and SMO for $336 if he only got $100? You can deflect with bubble gums if you want but I’d like to see your maths on how a $100 discount using Amex results in $536 being reduced to $336.

You don't read your own link.  Or follow the links in them.

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/345138

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/340003

I did and I’m still right. That 2nd link you posted is for Harvey Norman, not Big W, which is the store who had the Switch at $369. You haven’t answered any of my questions. Is it dawning on you yet that you are wrong or do I have to spell it even further to you?



TheBraveGallade on 29 November 2017

People forget an important part: if sony loses japan, ps loses one of the biggest reasons it has to selling: jappanese third party exclusivity. In fact the widest 2 console game coverage may as well turn out to be xbone+switch after a while whereas before now it was 3ds+ps4.



Alkibiádēs on 29 November 2017
Lawlight said:
OTBWY said:

I cannot fight against this type of damage control. It's outside the realm of reality at this point. Do you truly, honestly, believe than Sony can do without Japan? Really?

Facts show that they can.

Facts show that they're getting their ass kicked in Japan. 

You can't spin that into something good.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Megiddo on 29 November 2017

Only if Japanese devs don't care about Western sales. Though I could easily see Nintendo plucking some Sony titles that don't get released in the west or would sell much better on a handheld.



Lawlight on 29 November 2017
TheBraveGallade said:
People forget an important part: if sony loses japan, ps loses one of the biggest reasons it has to selling: jappanese third party exclusivity. In fact the widest 2 console game coverage may as well turn out to be xbone+switch after a while whereas before now it was 3ds+ps4.

Do you think those Japanese exclusives are there because Sony is doing so well in Japan? Or is it because Sony has a massive installbase outside of Japan? I meant - are those games targeting the 5M owners in Japan or the 60M+ outside of Japan? Also, are there a lot of Japanese exclusives?