I'm not sure you and I are in the same minority here.

Most people stopped caring about Pokémon after the 1st or 2nd generations, and I've also seen some that never moved beyond the 5th. I think Pokémon hit its absolute top form in the early 2010's, followed by an instant self-destruction after X & Y, when Junichi Masuda stopped directing the games and passed that on to Shigeru Ohmori. (Curiously, the most prominent exodus of Pokémon fans, which was after the 2nd generation, also had a director change, with Masuda taking over from Satoshi Tajiri.)

Shook how? Yo-Kai has had no effect whatsoever on Pokemon. The series is pretty niche outside of Japan, whereas Pokemon is a worldwide hit.

That'll work until a big dog comes along and challenges it. 

Yo-Kai came along and got Gamefreak shook.  It's why they genuinely tried with Sun/Moon.  If Yo-Kai can duplicate it's success on the Switch, GF will respond, guaranteed.  

The dude has a anti-Pokemon fetish. I wouldn't feed into it lest you give him more masturbation material 

Except, this really doesn't apply to sales. Whoever gave up on Pokémon after gen 5 didn't just not buy X/Y, no, they bought X/Y and were disappointed (like you). Either way, fans leaving the franchise behind doesn't mean sales will reduce because Pokémon is continually bringing in new people. For example, I didn't buy Sun/Moon and I definitely don't want to buy US/UM, and I know plenty of people who have done the same, yet they're selling insanely well.

Edit: also, lol at Sun/Moon being a return to form after X/Y. I know it's stupid to be aggressive over an opinion, and I'm sorry for it, but it's because of people like you this franchise has ended up where it is today. I hope you're proud.

Judging from his last post in this thread... noted.

Except, this really doesn't apply to sales. Whoever gave up on Pokémon after gen 5 didn't just not buy X/Y, no, they bought X/Y and were disappointed (like you). Either way, fans leaving the franchise behind doesn't mean sales will reduce because Pokémon is continually bringing in new people. For example, I didn't buy Sun/Moon and I definitely don't want to buy US/UM, and I know plenty of people who have done the same, yet they're selling insanely well.

Edit: also, lol at Sun/Moon being a return to form after X/Y. I know it's stupid to be aggressive over an opinion, and I'm sorry for it, but it's because of people like you this franchise has ended up where it is today. I hope you're proud.

The changes to formula in Sun/Moon weren't because GF gave a shit.  It was because Yo-Kai Watch blew up in Japan. Pokemon is a worldwide hit but GF and Nintendo still care most about the Japanese market.  They will be the most loyal the longest should Pokemon implode and die off elsewhere, or perhaps some other competition takes the world by storm with a monster friend RPG.

The dude has a anti-Pokemon fetish. I wouldn't feed into it lest you give him more masturbation material 

Yeah, I know you're happy with it, that's why I said I hope you're proud.

I don't think I said Sun/Moon were unambitious, though? If I did, well, fuck me. I even admitted to X & Y being rather unambitious despite my love of it. The problem here isn't ambition, but rather where that ambition is directed towards, and I think Sun & Moon took it in absolutely all the wrong directions. Even the stuff they did right (like removing HMs), were still done in a crappy way that leads much to be desired (replacing HMs with silly "ride" Pokémon instead of your own).

I want to believe whatever comes out on the Switch will bring me back in, but it's pretty hard, because well, this is Pokémon. It's not the kind of franchise where they'll just start each game with a blank slate. Pokémon is always continually adding more and more content and not "deleting" anything from its past, so even if the games turn out to be good and don't introduce any more new crappy stuff, I know Alola Forms, Z-moves, Ultra Beasts and Ash-Greninja will still be there. By then, pretty much any "purity" the game might have had is already lost.

Hey there. Did you know we're both members of the same forum, and are currently participating on the same thread? That being the case, it's actually possible for us to interact with one another directly instead of referring to each other distantly like this. I know it sounds crazy, but it's true.

That said, it's true I might be taking the Pokémon hate too far recently, but if that's the case I'm doing it because I genuinely care (or used to, at least) about this franchise, and am fucking disgusted at where it's gone, and moreso, at how no one seems to care about the absurdly drastic change in direction it's had. In recent days, I've been constantly thinking about my dream Pokémon game, and have thought of several really cool ideas and things that could be done with it, so whenever I go back to real life and see people talking about Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon (god that's such a stupid name...), and remember not only it but also how disappointing I already expect the next games to be, well, that makes me pretty sad.

It's maybe particularly sad because of how things have been lately with Nintendo. Being a Nintendo fan this year has been quite amazing, with loads of franchises getting stellar games left right and center, so when you remember what used to be one of your favorites and see it in this awful state amidst such awesomeness, it's quite the depressing sight.

Is there proof the changes were because of Yo-kai? Seems like a stretch that they would make such changes just because a game with a similar concept sold really well.

Damn son! Hard to believe you were a mod at one point! xD