Alkibiádēs said:
Skyrim: open world RPG Fifa: yearly rehash football title that most Nintendo fans couldn't give a single fuck about + it's missing many features that the other versions have. Besides, we haven't gotten sales numbers from Fifa 18, so your argument is moot. Switch is also most popular in North America and Japan and guess what... football (soccer) isn't popular in those countries... which explains the sales. Xbox One + PS4 + PC + Xbox 360/PS3 is also a much larger userbase than just the Switch, so that percentage isn't nearly as impressive as you seem to think it is. |
So let me get this straight... UK =/= WW because Skyrim =/= Fifa? We had VGC 1st week already. Unless you can provide better numbers then that is what we have to discuss on.
PS4 4.39M, Switch 0.11M seems like even removing X1, PC, X360, PS3 the representativeness of Switch is still very low.
And the point was that UK percentage was similar to WW for Fifa, so why is any absurd to suppose if Skyrim numbers are bad on UK they can be bad WW?
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
You are trying to catch me on inconsistencies that I have not made, other people have. I actually don't talk about VR at all on this site, so trying to pin me on what other people have said is odd. VR is a power seller as soon as it gets the full experiences to support it. Skyrim, like Resident Evil 7, is one such experience. It's not that the PSVR is a "power seller" or sells more than Switch. It's that this is one of the first times PS VR has been attractive to a general audience, with an amazing bundle, including the best selling RPG of all time(not including Pokemon 1st gen), and on top of that it's in the UK. I feel like these are pretty good reasons as to why the game is selling more than the Switch version. Not only is it heavily bundled, but it is a new experience. New. No matter how fresh Skyrim may be on Switch's handheld mode, I don't think that qualifies as being as new as a fully-fledged VR game. If I sound like I am making excuses out of sympathy for the Switch, then well ... that is because I kind of am. Well okay, not the excuses part, but the point is that I will admit there is a level of bias giving me such a perspective. Call it wishful thinking. I want the Switch to succeed, but most importantly I want people to be able to have great games on the Switch. To be able to enjoy great experiences on the console that come from companies other than Nintendo. That being said, I feel the viewpoint, even if a bit too optimistic, is supported by the points I made. Even if 3rd party support doesn't effect me(I use a gaming PC for third parties), I want the system to be great for other companies. I also feel like we've heard these points before. People were shouting doom and gloom when Fate/Extella sold worse on Switch than PS4 and Vita yet Marvelous is still supporting the Switch. I also seem to remember people shouting doom and gloom about the Xenoverse 2 port, and honestly I get it. Looking at the numbers at VGChartz, it says it sold only 100k physical as of September 30th. It debuted at only 24k in Japan(which isn't bad). Yet it passed 400k with digital as of November 9th, meaning that a mere port of an old game sold almost half a million in 1 month and 2.5 weeks. The U.K. performance of Skyrim is definitely not great, i'm not going to lie. But Digital + North American sales? It's going to perform very good, I feel. I feel like we'll go through this tango a million times with the Switch. One game underperforms in the charts, people freak out, company releases a statement saying they're pleased, people say the company is just using PR tactics, then they get confused when the company releases another 6 titles for the console. By the end of the generation, we'll probably look at Skyrim as a good performer with legs especially in the US. |
Supporting and cheering for Switch is fine and good. But you don't need to do this by discrediting the sales on a different platform. Because actually it would be less likely to have a big sale of Skyrim due to PSVR (even if bundled... because if PSVR was selling high before Skyrim then it having a bundle that sells good it would be more likely that Skyrim drove the buying than PSVR).
I would like Skyrim to do well. And sure it doing bad in UK doesn't necessarily means it done bad WW. The point is more like, if it is doing bad in UK considering the context then it may do bad WW and expecting high sales may drive to disapointement.

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