How exactly does this play out in your mind when weekly sales for the PS4 and switch initially took turns at being first place, with often there being not much in it in either direction, but now has settled with weekly sales being anywhere between 60 and 140k behind the ps4 per week...

Think about it, the switch is 55m+ behind, it would take the switch selling over a million per week and the PS4 selling 0, for a solid year just to break even, now step back and consider just how insane that situation would be, now extend that out to 4 years, it would take the switch selling 250k a week and the PS4 selling 0, FOR FOUR YEARS, to break even.

Be realistic man, cmon

The PS4 will have achieved in just 4 years what the 3ds, a much cheaper handheld, took 7 to do, those sales are not going to stop, even it they take a downturn year on year you're still talking 10+ mill a year, so if you take the 4 year cycle above and come up with a scenario where the PS4 was selling at it's current rate, in order to pass the PS4, which in 4 years time would break 100m, the switch would have to be outselling the PS4 by 452k a month, for the next 4 years, just to break even.

How in the hell do you propose the switch not only achieve that, but finish way ahead? and the worst part is all of this is on the relatively generous assumption that the PS4 is only currently 55m ahead, when in reality it's actually closer to 60

The only way this topic would be a valid question would have been if both consoles were currently within a few mill of each other and had both been on the market for roughly the same duration.

The switch isn't going to catch up, no matter how good it is, no matter if they drop the price of the console, or its games, or release thinner, cheaper versions, it just isnt going to happen, not unless you cobble together the sales of the switch with whatever replaces it, (as some do with DS and 3DS because it's the only option they have against the frankly rediculous sales of the PS2)

Put simply, yes the question still looks mad, if anything now we've more knowledge of the baseline for the switch, it's even MORE mad because you are making such an outlandish question while armed with MORE information than you could have done previously.

Platform	N. America	Europe	Japan	Global
	61,766	144,996	23,087	297,690
	76,581	46,881	73,845	222,359
	41,274	36,407	20,745	104,854
	39,175	45,172	74	100,286
	118	2,522	3,752	7,420
	259	347	70	737
	101	274	68	573
	211	152	N/A	444

The PS4 still outsells the Switch Worldwide in almost every week, also the PS4 still has not reached its sales peak.

So i ask, when will the gap close enough to surpass the PS4? Let’s be realistic here people.

ThisGuyFooks said: Platform N. America Europe Japan Global 61,766 144,996 23,087 297,690 76,581 46,881 73,845 222,359 41,274 36,407 20,745 104,854 39,175 45,172 74 100,286 118 2,522 3,752 7,420 259 347 70 737 101 274 68 573 211 152 N/A 444 The PS4 still outsells the Switch Worldwide in almost every week, also the PS4 still has not reached its sales peak. So i ask, when will the gap close enough to surpass the PS4? Let’s be realistic here people.

Than you first would need to be realistic, you comparing best PS4 year in 4 years with Switch 1st year where most of year Switch had supply problems and still have them in Japan for instance. Second, Vgchartz numbers are not most accurate, but we know that Switch won most of NPD US months in sales from March and we know that Switch is selling much better than PS4 in Japan, and we again talk about best PS4 year until now and 1st Switch year with huge suply problems.

ThisGuyFooks said: Platform N. America Europe Japan Global 61,766 144,996 23,087 297,690 76,581 46,881 73,845 222,359 41,274 36,407 20,745 104,854 39,175 45,172 74 100,286 118 2,522 3,752 7,420 259 347 70 737 101 274 68 573 211 152 N/A 444 The PS4 still outsells the Switch Worldwide in almost every week, also the PS4 still has not reached its sales peak. So i ask, when will the gap close enough to surpass the PS4? Let’s be realistic here people.

Dude, who cares about Worldwide? Only Japan and US matter, okay? Just look at those US and Japan Switch numbers! You must be a troll with all this evidence of PS4 consistently outselling the Switch worldwide!

The Switch doesn't need to outsell the PS4 worldwide to be the best selling device because NPD said so. Oh, and Japan also said so. Your "worldwide" results are meaningless!

ps - It also doesn't matter that Sony's single strongest market sold on par with Nintendo's two strongest markets combined this week, so don't even go there!

This thread will be gold only one year from now, lol.

It already is, just not for the reasons you are thinking.

I'm hoping for a major victory one way or the other. In other words I'm hoping for meltdowns!

A_C_E said: ThisGuyFooks said: Platform N. America Europe Japan Global 61,766 144,996 23,087 297,690 76,581 46,881 73,845 222,359 41,274 36,407 20,745 104,854 39,175 45,172 74 100,286 118 2,522 3,752 7,420 259 347 70 737 101 274 68 573 211 152 N/A 444 The PS4 still outsells the Switch Worldwide in almost every week, also the PS4 still has not reached its sales peak. So i ask, when will the gap close enough to surpass the PS4? Let’s be realistic here people. Dude, who cares about Worldwide? Only Japan and US matter, okay? Just look at those US and Japan Switch numbers! You must be a troll with all this evidence of PS4 consistently outselling the Switch worldwide! The Switch doesn't need to outsell the PS4 worldwide to be the best selling device because NPD said so. Oh, and Japan also said so. Your "worldwide" results are meaningless! ps - It also doesn't matter that Sony's single strongest market sold on par with Nintendo's two strongest markets combined this week, so don't even go there!

Japan and US are not only important ones, but for them we at least have numbers, you can't say that for Europe, we don't have numbers for hole Europe because Europe is hole continent with more than 40 countries and different markets so its much more harder to track sales, and even much harder to have actualy accurate numbers.

What NPD and MC says about sales numbers is definitely much more accurate than what are Vgchartz numbers.

Just saw someone posting that Switch is already trailing behind PS4 aligned on Europe, and considering it's common for Nintendo gens to be shorter but is possible to have higher sales on the same time period this race will be quite competitive.

Got it. Since we don't have official numbers for Europe then we can't consider them. I mean, honestly...how can we consider numbers we don't have? These Sonybots, I tell ya!

NPD and MC track sales which means those sales exist. No one tracks European sales which means they don't exist!