I think you're:

a) not getting what I'm saying when I'm talking about generational jumps

b) vastly underestimating what devs want.

If you look at current AMD GPUs, they scale from 2.3x-3x (depending on game) when switching from 1080p to 4K. Back in days, 720p to 1080p scaling was (again, depending on the title) around 1.3x-1.7x.

Now, if you have 240 GFLOPS X360 and 228 GLFOPS PS3 and then, as a dev, you get a Christmas present in the shape of PS4, you would be getting something that has GPU that is some 8x (on paper, in reality more) powerfull than what you've been using for all of the 7th gen. Out of that, those 1.3x-1.7x will go for resolution bump, rest of that jump (4.7x-6x) is for advancing visuals and is actual generational jump - call it a net gen jump.

Then, in 9th gen, you get 8x as powerful console, and out of that you need to spend 2.3x-3x for resolution...which leaves you with only 2.6x-3.5x for the net jump - pretty weak, IMO - so even with 8x (on paper) PS4, which is around 15TFLOPS, you're getting something that is nowhere near as a big of a leap as PS360 to PS4 was.

Now, people would be shocked and call you all sorts of names if you suggested that you need something that is at least 20TFLOPS to maintain similar leap...but then again, quite a few people around here were behaving in similar fashion when it was suggested back in days that PS4 might have something similar to 7970m (which is downclocked mobile 7870), which is almost what it packs. So yeah, 15TFLOPS, from this perspective, sounds like minimum.

All in all, we're way, way too early from actually guesstimating what might be in actual PS5, and eventually it will depend on when it's launched, what AMD can offer and what MSony are willing to pay for it...but, given the experience from previous gen, I think that people should keep their minds open.

"Monsters" aka the "midrange of tomorrow".

In a couple of years consoles will be the only consumers of GDDR5 (exept entry-level cards, but those are generally just rebrands), which will make that kind of memory more expensive than GDDR6 by that point. Plus, GDDR6 allows for more memory per chip, meaning you'll need less chips for the same amount of memory. So GDDR6 would be better on the long run even if it's a bit more expensive early on.

@Topic: Don't get too exited

The graphs are generally best-case scenarios and are fighting against chips with less logical cores in core-heavy CPU benchmarks. Especially Truecrypt, which benefits from AMDs AES encryption speed. In none of these cases the GPU has any workload, which would severy limit the scores as CPU and GPU parts would battle for ressources, i.e. the TDP budget and RAM bandwith.

I do agree that Ryzen mobile are excellent chips from what we can see so far, but they are not suitable for a handheld chip. For that, they still consume way too much, and to get it down to 5W (which is normally considered the limit both from a heat and battery life point) The chip would need to cut 2 physical cores and clock down by a strong amount (probably around 1.2-1.4 base clock), additionally the GPU part needs to be shrinked substancially (probably down to 4 NCU or 6 NCU with a really low clock count). At that point, it's not much better than a Tegra X2 anymore

They will be monsters by the time of their announcement.
They will be midrange by launch.
They will be outdated a year after launch.

Just like every gen.

Aka. Low-end half way through the cycle.
A Geforce 1030 which is the lowest of the lowest-end in nVidia's product stack can give a Radeon 7850/PS4 a run for it's money and smashes the Xbox One.

I expect the PS5 to be around 15 TF, about 8 times the original PS4 and 2.5 times Xbox One X. Heavy focus on VR and backwards compatibility. Maybe some dedicated resources for deep learning.

Yet that lowest of the lowest gpu in the ps4 produces better graphics with its exclusives than a pc with a $1000 gpu and has consistently medium to high quality settings according to DF in multiplats, now imagine a ps5 that has a gpu that smahes that $1000 gpu in a couple years and make the best looking games of today (God of War, Detroit, Ghost  of Tsushima, TLOU2) look like last gen.

But even with multiplats, how does a geforce 1030 run Asscreed Origins? It runs it at ps2 quality very low settings at 1080p with awful screen tearing

vs PS4's nearly constant 1080p

Geforce 1030 is like 1,127 Tflops.... and its performance is abit under a Geforce 750 ti.

Thats well below a PS4 in terms of performance.

Heck this Ryzen 2700u could beat a 1030 in terms of performance, and at 15-25watts.

While a geforce 1030 alone is 30watts+ (without counting in a systems cpu).

Man you got me wrong.

I'm not talking about making a PS4 Portable. I'm talking about making a PS5 Portable (that sure could have power similar to PS4), but that both HW the console and the hibrid (7 or 10") could run the same game with compromise. I got some answer on the hard part for disc based and also that the scalability wouldn't be easy as turn the dial, but still not that it is impossible.

for a 720p or 1080p display on a 7-10" hybrid would you agree that it would be possible to have this version of the PS5 (sure with lot of compromise and perhaps power level of PS4)? Sure there are some technical burdens today, but designing from ground up I don't think it would be impossible (but it could ne uninteresting).

The PS5 and Xbox4 might be close to my current rig/performance wise it will be epic to see what developers like naughty dog and rare can pull from it, really good times are here and more are coming.

As long as they have Physical Disc support, I will buy both.