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Forums - Sales - Nintendo Switch exceeds 2.6m sales in the US; Mario Odyssey exceeds 1.1m in the US

DonFerrari on 03 November 2017
flashfire926 said:
Slimebeast said:
To me 2 million for an entire continent sounds very little. All you hear is how Switch is a breaking success, and yet its sales is only 10% of PS4?

I've heard reports that Nintendo increased the production to 2 million units of Switch per month, so how come they sold so little?

I never knew the US was a whole continent.

Jokes aside, once you include Canada, Mexico, and all those other NA counties, the total for North America is most likely at 3 million. And yeah, only been 8 months, 8 months that didnt include a holiday season.

What are those other NA countries? You listed USA, Canada and Mexico. Which is missing?

flashfire926 said:
Farsala said:

It's purpose from day 1 was to make Sony more money. They didn't push the hardware limits at all, but they noticed a market for a mid gen upgrade and so they pulled the trigger a year ahead of the XB1X. The XB1X on the other hand, as far as I can tell barely breaks even. MS wants a better XB brand and good faith from consumers, thus XB1X. MS barely makes any money from HW anymore, so they aren't too worried about the XB1X.

I never looked at it that way, so you may be right. The profit margin is probably higher. but you gotta wonder, if this product gives you more profit, why not advertise it more? The launch seemed very low-key, and I would expect more than a 1 in 5 rate when the price difference isnt that much (with the exception of holiday months).

Because very few houses have 4k TV and customers usually look for pricetag. And we don't know if PS4Pro margin is higher than PS4, what was said is that PS4Pro have margin while X1X probably doesn't.

StarDoor said:
Slimebeast said:

Okay, sorry. It's good that you bring perspective to this and explain. I now realize that a few years from now, the Switch sales numbers will be several dozen million worldwide.

In my defense though, my reaction was quite similar to this Colin Moriarty guy, whoever that is:

"Colin Moriarty ✔ @notaxation

Wait, the Switch has only sold two million units in the US since it launched? And that's considered successful? The industry is-a changin'."

Colin Moriarty was brought up to be mocked because his statment is illogical given that, in the United States, Switch in 2017 has been selling at the same pace as PS4 in 2014. Also, Colin is notorious for being blinded by his own bias toward Sony, since he famously wrote a sizeable IGN article about how Vita would be massively more successful than 3DS.

Everything seems obvious on a hindsight. There were a lot of people here that thought WiiU would be the best selling console of the generation or that PS4 would fail to pass PSVita and Sony would close the door. Are all of the them fanboys?

AngryLittleAlchemist said:
DaveTheMinion13 said:

Hes right though......Switch has been out 7 months.......Xbox One sold 2.6 million in 6 months in the US, and PS4 sold 3.1 million in the US in its first 6 montbs. 

And the Xbox One had hefty supply shipments to three major regions?

Oh wait, it didn't?

So it's not stretched out between three regions?

Interesting. It's almost like the Switch sell through rate is normal in relation to shipments sent to America. Almost like the console is divided heavily between 3 regions(two of which are major). 

Oh ... but hey! That's not excusable because the PS4, a console that has had like one shortage in it's history, had 3.1 by now! Silly me! (Even then, I doubt the PS4's shipments to Japan were taking away as heavily from the European and American shipments 7 months in as they were the Switch, but I won't bet on it)

All II read from what you said is that Sony is better at managing their stock. Thanks. And when USA and Japan doesn't receive the same as Europe, so it isn't so split between 3, but more like it is selling heavily on 2 and something on the others.

Miyamotoo said:
StreaK said:

Yeah, but PS4 in its first 12 months did 14.4 million WITHOUT any major game releases like a Zelda or Mario (which both came out the SAME year even.) For Sony, that would be the EQUIVALENT of Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us II coming out on launch within the same year lol. Can you even imagine that??? In 2014, the only major release was Destiny at the END of 2014. No big exclusives really until later. Only Nintendo would do something like this after just coming off of the Wii U because they NEED sales. It's like a full-on attack because of the disastrous Wii U "effect."

Would the Switch sell like this WITHOUT a Mario or Zelda??? Who knows but I think likely not personally. We all know PS consoles sell because they are media devices as well as gaming devices.

Note: Also, just for comparison's sake...on a monthly basis, how does the PS4 stack up so far next to the switch? Is it over or under 7 million worldwide???

Eh, PS4 didn't had strong exclusives but had strong 3rd party support in 1st year, Switch has strong exclusives but don't have strong 3rd party support. What would PS4 sold without big 3rd party games (for intance GTAV and CoD) in 1st year, definitely not so great. In other words, it's comparing apples to oranges.

So you are talking about all those yearly titles plus a remaster?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 03 November 2017
flashfire926 said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

It fails to push forward what needs in anyway? And it having no pointto exist in your eyes does not make it a failure...I am sure you meant no hard it was just an odd comment.

PS4 seems like a great console (I dont ownone myself, looking to get one soon), and I'm sure that it derserves all the success it has gotten.  However, to me the pro variant was completely pointless. Sony was and still is comfortably ahead than its competitors, and its not like the pro caused a huge influx of sales. It doesnt cause harm, but it doesnt benefit them either. Its just..... there. 1 in 5 PS4's sold being a pro seems sorta dissapointing to me. The PS4 would have still kept the monumental momentum, with or without the pro.

If PS4Pro sells 20% of the total, that is quite the good influx of sales.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Miyamotoo on 03 November 2017
DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

Eh, PS4 didn't had strong exclusives but had strong 3rd party support in 1st year, Switch has strong exclusives but don't have strong 3rd party support. What would PS4 sold without big 3rd party games (for intance GTAV and CoD) in 1st year, definitely not so great. In other words, it's comparing apples to oranges.

So you are talking about all those yearly titles plus a remaster?

That remaster buy now probably become best selling game of of all time and its one of most popular game of all time, its also best selling PS4 game, it sold more than 16m on PS4 alone, while CoD is also one of best selling IPs on PS4, combined 4 CoD games sold more than 30m on PS4 alone. So yes, GTA and CoD are definitely one of biggest system sealers for PS4.

Like @Zorg wrote, AAA western multiplats are the primary system sellers of PS4.



DonFerrari on 03 November 2017
Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

So you are talking about all those yearly titles plus a remaster?

That remaster buy now probably become best selling game of of all time and its one of most popular game of all time, its also best selling PS4 game, it sold more than 16m on PS4 alone, while CoD is also one of best selling IPs on PS4, combined 4 CoD games sold more than 30m on PS4 alone. So yes, GTA and CoD are definitely one of biggest system sealers for PS4.

Like @Zorg wrote, AAA western multiplats are the primary system sellers of PS4.

Yes the 3rd parties are the main reason, but it isn't as if  GTA or even CoD is the primary reason.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Miyamotoo on 03 November 2017
DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

That remaster buy now probably become best selling game of of all time and its one of most popular game of all time, its also best selling PS4 game, it sold more than 16m on PS4 alone, while CoD is also one of best selling IPs on PS4, combined 4 CoD games sold more than 30m on PS4 alone. So yes, GTA and CoD are definitely one of biggest system sealers for PS4.

Like @Zorg wrote, AAA western multiplats are the primary system sellers of PS4.

Yes the 3rd parties are the main reason, but it isn't as if  GTA or even CoD is the primary reason.

You said alone 3rd parties are main reason, and GTAV is definitely even today biggest 3rd party game on PS4, not to metione first year.



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DonFerrari on 03 November 2017
Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes the 3rd parties are the main reason, but it isn't as if  GTA or even CoD is the primary reason.

You said alone 3rd parties are main reason, and GTAV is definitely even today biggest 3rd party game on PS4, not to metione first year.

So you added words to try and make it more relevant?

Was PS4 selling good before GTAV arrived? Yes it was breaking records already.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Miyamotoo on 03 November 2017
DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

You said alone 3rd parties are main reason, and GTAV is definitely even today biggest 3rd party game on PS4, not to metione first year.

So you added words to try and make it more relevant?

Was PS4 selling good before GTAV arrived? Yes it was breaking records already.

I talking about facts. :)

Yes PS4 was selling great even before GTAV, but had other strong 3rd party games.



DonFerrari on 03 November 2017
Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

So you added words to try and make it more relevant?

Was PS4 selling good before GTAV arrived? Yes it was breaking records already.

I talking about facts. :)

Yes PS4 was selling great even before GTAV, but had other strong 3rd party games.

Yes, as any year PS platform have great 3rd parties.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

StarDoor on 03 November 2017
DonFerrari said:
StarDoor said:

Colin Moriarty was brought up to be mocked because his statment is illogical given that, in the United States, Switch in 2017 has been selling at the same pace as PS4 in 2014. Also, Colin is notorious for being blinded by his own bias toward Sony, since he famously wrote a sizeable IGN article about how Vita would be massively more successful than 3DS.

Everything seems obvious on a hindsight. There were a lot of people here that thought WiiU would be the best selling console of the generation or that PS4 would fail to pass PSVita and Sony would close the door. Are all of the them fanboys?

Even people here who dislike Nintendo predicted massive success for Wii U, despite the obvious signs. That's because Wii won last generation. People tend to just assume that current trends will continue indefinitely.

Colin, though, had no reason for predicting Vita would outsell 3DS other than being a Sony fanboy. Not only did the market signs point in the opposite direction, but PSP had sold 70M less than DS in the preceding generation. Niether the short-term nor long-term trends favored Vita.



Jranation on 03 November 2017
StreaK said:
LimaBean01 said:

and neither had as severe stock issues. the switch is just pacing behind ps4 and Wii worldwide and holidays havent even arrived.

remember yall, if nintendo meets 14 million this FY (resulting in 16.7m total for first 12 months), it will officially set the record for most sales in a console's first twelve months in the market.

Yeah, but PS4 in its first 12 months did 14.4 million WITHOUT any major game releases like a Zelda or Mario (which both came out the SAME year even.) For Sony, that would be the EQUIVALENT of Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us II coming out on launch within the same year lol. Can you even imagine that??? In 2014, the only major release was Destiny at the END of 2014. No big exclusives really until later. Only Nintendo would do something like this after just coming off of the Wii U because they NEED sales. It's like a full-on attack because of the disastrous Wii U "effect."

Would the Switch sell like this WITHOUT a Mario or Zelda??? Who knows but I think likely not personally. We all know PS consoles sell because they are media devices as well as gaming devices.

 

Note: Also, just for comparison's sake...on a monthly basis, how does the PS4 stack up so far next to the switch? Is it over or under 7 million worldwide???

Switch still have Animal Crossing and Pokemon which "may" get released next year. If the Switch gets really popular in Japan. It can get really close to the 3DS. 



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