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Nautilus said:
zorg1000 said:

Literally just google North America

Ehhh he is right though.There are countries that separate them into three big regions, and there are some that separates into two.Thats more a "cultural" thing than anything else.

Im not disputing that.



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DonFerrari said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

And the Xbox One had hefty supply shipments to three major regions?

Oh wait, it didn't?

So it's not stretched out between three regions?

Interesting. It's almost like the Switch sell through rate is normal in relation to shipments sent to America. Almost like the console is divided heavily between 3 regions(two of which are major). 

Oh ... but hey! That's not excusable because the PS4, a console that has had like one shortage in it's history, had 3.1 by now! Silly me! (Even then, I doubt the PS4's shipments to Japan were taking away as heavily from the European and American shipments 7 months in as they were the Switch, but I won't bet on it)

All II read from what you said is that Sony is better at managing their stock. Thanks. And when USA and Japan doesn't receive the same as Europe, so it isn't so split between 3, but more like it is selling heavily on 2 and something on the others.

Uhh...what? 

Got to be honest Don, this is a very odd reply. Not only was I not talking to you, but you turn a comment saying factual reasoning ... and all you got from it was something to reinforce a positive sentiment about Sony? Ok .... that sounds very, very fanboyish and it's just odd because it's not a cock fight competition. Nobody was saying any company was worse or better, it was just a comment explaining why the Switch doesn't specialize in one specific area.

Also, I literally said that not as much Switch's are going to Europe as in Japan or America. I've said this time and time again. Don't know why you felt the need to correct what didn't need correction. I would guess that 7 months in, more Switch supply is being given to Europe(the 3rd most important region) than Japan was getting PS4 supply, but that's just speculation and besides the point.

It really depends on what you mean by "Sony is better at managing their stock." If you mean managing their existing stock, then I don't agree. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with focusing on two regions and Europe, there's no point taking resources from one major region just for the sake of getting better sales in one region to make forum users happier. If you mean having *more stock* then ... yeah? Lol



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
DonFerrari said:

All II read from what you said is that Sony is better at managing their stock. Thanks. And when USA and Japan doesn't receive the same as Europe, so it isn't so split between 3, but more like it is selling heavily on 2 and something on the others.

Uhh...what? 

Got to be honest Don, this is a very odd reply. Not only was I not talking to you, but you turn a comment saying factual reasoning ... and all you got from it was something to reinforce a positive sentiment about Sony? Ok .... that sounds very, very fanboyish and it's just odd because it's not a cock fight competition. Nobody was saying any company was worse or better, it was just a comment explaining why the Switch doesn't specialize in one specific area.

Also, I literally said that not as much Switch's are going to Europe as in Japan or America. I've said this time and time again. Don't know why you felt the need to correct what didn't need correction. I would guess that 7 months in, more Switch supply is being given to Europe(the 3rd most important region) than Japan was getting PS4 supply, but that's just speculation and besides the point.

It really depends on what you mean by "Sony is better at managing their stock." If you mean managing their existing stock, then I don't agree. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with focusing on two regions and Europe, there's no point taking resources from one major region just for the sake of getting better sales in one region to make forum users happier. If you mean having *more stock* then ... yeah? Lol

If one use an argument that PS4 only was ahead because it had more stock available than that just shows either Nintendo was bad at managing the stock or Sony was better at it. I preferred no to put Nintendo on the bad side of it.

Nope I was just showing that it is much more separated in 2 regions than 3, but that isn't really relevant =]

Managing stock in this case is reading demand and producing and shifting that to stores. Nintendo being sold out in all regions makes the distribution of that shipment kinda irrelevant (it would be relevant only if they had too much in one area and shortages in another, Sony needed some time for the adjustments of shipment distribution on the release months of PS4).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

Well, the Caribean and Central America are still considered to be North America, if I'm not wrong. Switch has sold 209k in Canada, and its not a stretch to assume the Mexico, a country with five times the population of Canada, has bought a further 191k Switches to push that total past 3M for North America as a whole. So in the end it probably doesnt even matter if you take the other countries into account or not.

And on the second point, thanks for the clarification. I see what he meant now.

Since when is Central America and Carribean Island part of North America?

flashfire926 said:

How do we know that these Pro customers werent just gonna buy a regular PS4, had the new option not been available? Many people are first time PS4 owners, and they just chose to buy the pro over the slim. Those sales would have gone to normal PS4, had the Pro not existed, leading to little to no difference in sales.

Yes you do have the hardcore fans who would upgrade to the pro from standard, but thats only like a relatively small fraction of people in the bigger picture.

The fact that they could have bought the PS4 for 3 years before the Pro launched, so it's valid to think they were enticed to buy the Pro and that drove the sales up. Unless you think the revisions of Nintendo handhelds and sony/ms slims didn't move the needle.

We don't really know how many bought a second time or wouldn't buy Pro. But you said it didn't move the needle, so you have the burden of proof.

Its not neccessary that the pro enticed them to buy a ps4. Life happens. Maybe its a gift for someone's growing son or daughter. Maybe someone had developed an interest in gaming just now. Maybe its a long-time Xbox fan who is enticed by the PS first-party games. By your logic, I could ask, "why are people still getting a PS4 in 2017? They had three years to do so, why now?"

And since when is Central America its own continent?



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

flashfire926 said:
DonFerrari said:

Since when is Central America and Carribean Island part of North America?

The fact that they could have bought the PS4 for 3 years before the Pro launched, so it's valid to think they were enticed to buy the Pro and that drove the sales up. Unless you think the revisions of Nintendo handhelds and sony/ms slims didn't move the needle.

We don't really know how many bought a second time or wouldn't buy Pro. But you said it didn't move the needle, so you have the burden of proof.

Its not neccessary that the pro enticed them to buy a ps4. Life happens. Maybe its a gift for someone's growing son or daughter. Maybe someone had developed an interest in gaming just now. Maybe its a long-time Xbox fan who is enticed by the PS first-party games. By your logic, I could ask, "why are people still getting a PS4 in 2017? They had three years to do so, why now?"

And since when is Central America its own continent?

In Brazil since ever or never depending on the book, we usually either divide it as America or N, C, S America.

And about PS4Pro, sure we can't be sure. But you were the one saying it didn't move the needle at all.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

Its not neccessary that the pro enticed them to buy a ps4. Life happens. Maybe its a gift for someone's growing son or daughter. Maybe someone had developed an interest in gaming just now. Maybe its a long-time Xbox fan who is enticed by the PS first-party games. By your logic, I could ask, "why are people still getting a PS4 in 2017? They had three years to do so, why now?"

And since when is Central America its own continent?

In Brazil since ever or never depending on the book, we usually either divide it as America or N, C, S America.

And about PS4Pro, sure we can't be sure. But you were the one saying it didn't move the needle at all.

Okay I see then.

However, if we are arguing, that must mean that you think it did move the needle forward. Doesnt mean that is the default answer. Have we gotten any sales breakdown from the pro, or any pr from sony about it, aside from the "1 in 5" thing? They seem awfully quiet about it.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

flashfire926 said:
DonFerrari said:

In Brazil since ever or never depending on the book, we usually either divide it as America or N, C, S America.

And about PS4Pro, sure we can't be sure. But you were the one saying it didn't move the needle at all.

Okay I see then.

However, if we are arguing, that must mean that you think it did move the needle forward. Doesnt mean that is the default answer. Have we gotten any sales breakdown from the pro, or any pr from sony about it, aside from the "1 in 5" thing? They seem awfully quiet about it.

From what I remember (but I would have to dig a lot) they were asked about if they were new consumers, they said most were but that there a lot of people also upgrading. They never gave a breakdown of course.

They also said they were selling over their forecasts (about couple months ago).

So PS4Pro is a success for Sony and it moved the needle, we can't say it didn't move any AT ALL.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

zorg1000 said:
Nautilus said:

Ehhh he is right though.There are countries that separate them into three big regions, and there are some that separates into two.Thats more a "cultural" thing than anything else.

Im not disputing that.

It seemed like you were.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:
zorg1000 said:

Im not disputing that.

It seemed like you were.

Nope, he was acting like it was crazy to think Central America is part of North America, i was just pointing out that a quick google search will show that its most commonly considered part of NA.



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RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:

Well as CONTINENTS it is AMERICA, as divisions is NORTH, CENTRAL and SOUTH in Brazil. But it is funny to see someone calling central america as part of north america =~] isn't it?

But I accept that even though I never see in any newspaper or book (even NPD considers North America just the 3 countries) some places may consider the division of 2 countries as the valid one.

You are probably in one of the few countries who divide the American continent into three pieces. The more common method is to view America as a double-continent, consisting of a northern and southern mass of land. So if you asked me who the funny guys are, it would be folks like you from Brazil.

Similarly, people from the UK have the habit to talk about the UK and Europe as separate entities, so they commonly write sentences like "Super Mario Odyssey launches in the UK and Europe on October 27th" in news articles.

We brazilian are funny guys

zorg1000 said:
Nautilus said:

It seemed like you were.

Nope, he was acting like it was crazy to think Central America is part of North America, i was just pointing out that a quick google search will show that its most commonly considered part of NA.

Not common here and considering NPD doesn't consider and considering the american company I work and several latin american countries divide it as North and Latin America on cultural, but on geography I just remember N, C, S and all



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."