Forums - General Discussion - NeoGAF in shambles (now back, no OT discussion, statement from Evilore)

This was bound to happen, sooner or later.

If you happen to match the archetype of the perfect enemy of your own base - and have the personality, to boot - you should really expect them to turn on you.

It's a shame NeoGAF had to die for Evilore to lean this lesson, but, alas, NeoGAF has far outlived its purpose as a containment forum.



 
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http://geonaf.com/

I believe that's their new site if it hasnt been posted already.



             

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Mr Khan said:
Hi everybody.

Poking my head in for the first time since i wandered off after getting de-Modded. I did end up going to Penny Arcade (by Khuutra's recommendation), and to GAF eventually, though i only really started getting deep in there after the 2016 US elections.

Haven't seen a community that better-reflected my views on things. The reason it collapsed so quickly with the revelations is because the leadership was very invested in creating a better class of environment than too much of the gaming community (not that VGC was ever that bad, thanks to the mods, but the amount of people in this thread using SJW as a pejorative is a huge fucking red flag). I basically lived out of their politics thread, and their views on Nazi-punching were delightful. Spent relatively little time on Gaming-side, not because the interest isn't there anymore (playing as much or more than i ever have been, Switch is awesome), but because the cool discussion was really on the other side. They had a large black community of users and a good-sized cohort of women, and i learned a lot there about respect for marginalized groups and about the experiences of others who aren't me (a young, white, straight, cis-male).

I hope some of the old admins build a new community, but what's gone is gone since forums like there (or here), are a relic in the social media age where discussion is people using places like Nazi-friendly twitter and facebook or just going to Discord. Replacing it might not be a question, because so much of its power was in inertia, though some of the top people clearly had industry connections (through their method of having the mod team verify industry insiders who would carefully leak information) and could be an asset in other places.

It really hurts to see that gone. Shame on EvilLore for taking down such a beautiful thing with him, but good on the mods and admins who were willing to take sexual assault seriously.

Going to a gaming forum to discuss...politics. I've always found that bit interesting.

You speak as if your heart is in the right place, so I hope that you don't find yourself in hot water any time soon.



 
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Captain_Yuri said:
http://geonaf.com/

I believe that's their new site if it hasnt been posted already.

It's not an official successor, and I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't last long.



Captain_Yuri said:
http://geonaf.com/

I believe that's their new site if it hasnt been posted already.

I signed up. If anything happens to this site like happened to neogaf in 10 years, at least I'll have been around since day 0.



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Mr Khan said:
Hi everybody.

Poking my head in for the first time since i wandered off after getting de-Modded. I did end up going to Penny Arcade (by Khuutra's recommendation), and to GAF eventually, though i only really started getting deep in there after the 2016 US elections.

Haven't seen a community that better-reflected my views on things. The reason it collapsed so quickly with the revelations is because the leadership was very invested in creating a better class of environment than too much of the gaming community (not that VGC was ever that bad, thanks to the mods, but the amount of people in this thread using SJW as a pejorative is a huge fucking red flag). I basically lived out of their politics thread, and their views on Nazi-punching were delightful. Spent relatively little time on Gaming-side, not because the interest isn't there anymore (playing as much or more than i ever have been, Switch is awesome), but because the cool discussion was really on the other side. They had a large black community of users and a good-sized cohort of women, and i learned a lot there about respect for marginalized groups and about the experiences of others who aren't me (a young, white, straight, cis-male).

I hope some of the old admins build a new community, but what's gone is gone since forums like there (or here), are a relic in the social media age where discussion is people using places like Nazi-friendly twitter and facebook or just going to Discord. Replacing it might not be a question, because so much of its power was in inertia, though some of the top people clearly had industry connections (through their method of having the mod team verify industry insiders who would carefully leak information) and could be an asset in other places.

It really hurts to see that gone. Shame on EvilLore for taking down such a beautiful thing with him, but good on the mods and admins who were willing to take sexual assault seriously.

While we didn't always agree on things on this forum, I want to say that this is a brilliant post..

While I didn't generally agree with the way they handled moderation and the entire echo chamber and dogpiling thing they had going on, the Off Topic Communities were what made GAF a step above many other forums for discussing, well, anything. That side of the forum will be missed greatly for me, it offered something that you don't see on other forums, or the likes of Reddit and social media and had some brilliant members. 

Oh, and tell Khuutra I said hello. I know who he is over on Penny Arcade but I've never actually made an account over there. He was the one who inspired me to change the way I was on these forums.



                            

Captain_Yuri said:
http://geonaf.com/

I believe that's their new site if it hasnt been posted already.

Is this backed by the mod cartel?

If it isn't, this may turn out like the NyaaTorrents situation.



 
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Nem said:

Oh i just found what this is all about here:
https://imgur.com/a/FJrjx#Mq83KUL

This is all cause he probably got mixed signs and got in the shower with her when they went in a trip as friends. After she said it wasn't ok, he got out and resented her.

It sucks, but i'm not sure this can even be considered Sexual harassment. He didn't actually harass her or touched her from what i understand.

 

The street harrasment part is the only one that is not ok in my view, if true. But that is verbal abuse, not sexual harassment. Not sure it's even a crime unless it's on the workplace or something, but that is not ok.

 

Still, i dunno. This doesn't sound like a super unusual or harassment story. It's just how things happen sometimes. Sometimes people make mistakes. Love is complicated.

It's actually really not complicated.

If you feel you're getting mixed signals (which is possibly because people hear what they want to hear) you can say something along the lines of "I really like you", "I'd like to be more than friends", "how do you feel about me", or some such variation on the concept.  These kinds of statements or questions make it clear to the other party that you are interested in a romantic or sexual relationship, and allow them to clarify their intentions.

What you should not do is take barge in on a person completely naked while they're in the shower.  I determined that this course of action is inappropriate with a simple test.  I thought "what would I do if a guy did this to me".  My answer was "I would beat the shit out of them".  Based on this answer, I determined it is reasonable that a woman may feel similarly violated in such a scenario.

By following the simple step of making your intentions known before you take your cock out and walk in on a person during an intimate activity, you can prevent awkward situations, and ensure that there is not a mass exodus from your internet gaming forum.



TheWPCTraveler said:
Captain_Yuri said:
http://geonaf.com/

I believe that's their new site if it hasnt been posted already.

Is this backed by the mod cartel?

If it isn't, this may turn out like the NyaaTorrents situation.

The guy who started the forum said he wants to bring back on all the old mods and bring back all the old rules from Gaf,

So its just gonna be a repeat of last time. I have honestly no idea why you'd not want to start from scratch with the mods.



     

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AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Can you prove that ?

As much as I can prove that I am not Santa Claus.

So yeah... just in case....

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