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Forums - Sony Discussion - PS5 To Feature Full Discrete GPU Not APU [RUMOUR]

Doesn't a dedicated GPU cost money? Why would they do it? Now that they convinced everyone that an APU is actually worth money.



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Doubt it if they are going AMD again. Maybe if they go intel + Nvidia or AMD + Nvidia or etc but I doubt they will go that route even more.



             

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I find that kind of unlikely. The power requirements of a separate discrete CPU and GPU would be pretty high, unless they use laptop variants for both. The cost would also be pretty darn high to deliver a system with separate CPU/GPU that is powerful enough to feel next-gen in say 2019 or 2020. We'd probably be looking at $600 in 2019 unless they're willing to sell at a loss. 



Maybe...just because they went APU route this generation doesn't mean they can't revert to older model.

As for 1070 level...that is way, way too weak to be called next gen.



HoloDust said:
Maybe...just because they went APU route this generation doesn't mean they can't revert to older model.

As for 1070 level...that is way, way too weak to be called next gen.

I don't know if I'd say way too weak, but definitely kind of weak. Vega 56 is roughly equivalent to a 1070, and Vega 56 is 8 tflops compared to 1.8 for PS4, so a bit more than 4x more powerful than PS4. The main problem I see with it is that 8 tflops is only 25% better XB1 X, sure it wouldn't be handicapped by a weak CPU like XB1 X is, but still. MS could just wait until 2020 and release a new APU based Xbox that is around 9 tflops for $500 and sell it alongside the older XB1 X at $250-300, able to play 9th gen games at 1080p vs 4K on the new 9th gen Xbox. 



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This is good or bad?
Does it means that the memory between GPU and CPU is not shared? It wouldnt have the optimization of a console, and be more like a PC?



Sony might have learned by now that 500$ and beyond consoles do not perform well.

Unless they are seeking for a PS3/X1 type of situation.



shikamaru317 said:
HoloDust said:
Maybe...just because they went APU route this generation doesn't mean they can't revert to older model.

As for 1070 level...that is way, way too weak to be called next gen.

I don't know if I'd say way too weak, but definitely kind of weak. Vega 56 is roughly equivalent to a 1070, and Vega 56 is 8 tflops compared to 1.8 for PS4, so a bit more than 4x more powerful than PS4. The main problem I see with it is that 8 tflops is only 25% better XB1 X, sure it wouldn't be handicapped by a weak CPU like XB1 X is, but still. MS could just wait until 2020 and release a new APU based Xbox that is around 9 tflops for $500 and sell it alongside the older XB1 X at $250-300, able to play 9th gen games at 1080p vs 4K on the new 9th gen Xbox. 

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant - that is way too weak for proper next gen jump.

7th to 8th gen jump was 8x (in numbers) or 10x (according to Sony in real perforamance) - and that was with just 2.25 more pixels, instead of 4x for native 4K.

Way, way too weak - even twice that is barely enough.

And yeah, I know how it looks now, but back in days most people were calling crazy everyone that thought PS4 would pack something similar to 7970m (it pretty much does).



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OTBWY said:

I want another 599 US dollars moment when announcing the PS5.

I better get two more jobs just to be safe.