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BraLoD said:
Nautilus said:

As far as Im aware, the ones going to Vizioneck are the ones that get banned here.At least a good number of them.And they get banned here for a reason.Its not anyones fault that we do get then the wrong type of PS fans, if they are the ones that are indeed more PS oriented.But thats beside the point.

And I think you are comming from a "biased" point of view in my opinion.The last few months, or last year really, has had more Nintendo threads made because Nintendo is not only currently the underdog, but also because it had/has a new console announced and released.The same happened to both Sony and Microsoft back in the time when they were about to reveal their new consoles, and the year after, if Im not mistaken.And with games with the quality of Zelda, Mario and Xenoblade comming out, plus all these "stereotypes" that Nintendo is breaking, they are bound to be the one most talked about.Not that quality games are not releasing on PS4, Horizon is a great game, Crash was talked alot back when it was released and Persona 5 is a masterpiece, but Nintendo is having what will probably be called the best first year for a console ever, or at least close to that.Its hard to compete against that in terms of discussions.

Now about Nintendo being the company with the most wanted games, well... they ARE the best developer in the world, wether you like to admit it or not.And they got a shitton of studios under them, so they always have alot of new games every year.Plus this forum is a bit more Nintendo oriented.But saying that it is mostly Nintendo?Thats just false.

I'm sorry, but the only one coming from a biased pov here is you.

The fact you think the Switch matches the PC in indies is more than enough proof, you are very focused just in what you want to look at, that's exactly what being biased is, and claiming Nintendo is the best dev in the world and saying this year they have the best year ever and period I admit it or not, is futher proof, as I couldn't disagree more with you on both of this arguments, yet your opinion shall triumph as fact.

And to complete, what I said is not false, and their leaving followed Pezus leaving on his own will plus JoeTheBro with VizionEck being able to move people there, I know it because I got called from people here to join there sometimes, while they were still here, some still are, but much more active there than here. Some of them left because ofthe mod team at the moment, it was built with over 85% of Nintendo fans (not an actual data, just my numerical representation of "a lot") and they felt a lack of balance on what was going on. I never really got a problem with any of the mod teams, honestly, but the criticism about it was big by non-Nintendo fans until 2015/ early 2016.

This site was and is a Nintendo oriented place, I was really into observating what was going on here unti 3 or 4 months ago, I'm talking out of experience, not bias. Again, no problem with that.

I will give you that you are right about the PC statement.Since I am more biased towards console gaming, and thus while I do still believe on what I said simply because thats my preference, PC is still factually better.Should have formulated that part better.For everything else I stand by what i said.You just need to remember that this is my opinion and, since you are obviosly more a PS centric gamer(and biased against Nintendo.Remember your "Nintendo should go third party" thread?), you will not agree with me.As for Nintendo being the best developer in the world, thats simply a "factual" truth.If you go by personal tastes then yeah sure, it depends on what you like and all, but Nintendo keeps getting best GOTY awards through the years, their games keep being reverenced as the best, and not only by their own fanbase, for a reason.Thats in part because Nintendo has a shitton studios that keeps pouring games of different genres, but they are all still Nintendo.And I mean, Nintendo is the oldest videogames company, or at least one of the oldest, that not only develops software but also hardware for a reason.

And also I said they have the best launch year ever.Im sure Im not alone in this, and thats not only in the Nintendo side of things.

As for the rest, sure Mr. Sherlock.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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Goodnightmoon said:
StarOcean said:

Mr. Moon, you and I both know that is statement is 100% incorrect. 

I'm not that sure, I'm not saying you are one of them but the hyperbole has always been there, not sure why you feel to point speciafically to Nintendo, I have heard a lot of hyperbolic shit about the all mighty Ps4 this last 4 years to the point where sometimes I don't even see it anymore because it became normal, maybe it happens the same to you. In any case I don't see how is such an hyperbole to say Switch is slowly becoming the best option for indies when its pretty obvious that flexibility is a huge plus, that the console is getting a huge number of them in very little time and people is buying them more on Switch than other consoles, is not a delusional opinion or anything like that.

The bolded wouldn't be hyperbolic, just debatable (as most things are). An example of hyperbole would be your earlier comment, where you imply that the Switch is so indisputably superior for indies that people shouldn't even consider the alternatives. That's the kind of silly shit PS4 owners used to say to X1 owners about muilti-plats.

An indie has multi-player and you want to play with friends on your PS4/X1/PC? Fuck your friends.
Game is on sale somewhere else? Lmao, what are you poor?
Don't care much for portability? You're clearly sub-human.
Prefer another system's eco system? Shit taste brah.
Game supports modding on PC? Who even mods in 2k17?
A Switch version looks or runs worse? Literally not possible, every Switch game is 4k/120fps.
You've run out of space and don't want to delete anything right now? Buy more memory cheapskate.
Prefer mouse and keyboard, or the PS4/X1's controller? Oh well that seems reas- lol joke your preferences don't matter.
You like to collect trophies, gamer points, or level up on Steam? Wtf, that arbitrary source of fun is worth less than mine!

Yes, the follow on comments to these apparently non-existent reasons would also be examples of hyperbole :)



RolStoppable said:
CGI-Quality said:
Title Updated.

That's even more controversial than the original title. The statement has gone from "it's on its way to become the best" to "it is the best."

I am not even properly prepared to fight yet and you already upped the ante. By the time I have caught up with all posts, this thread is already going to be in ashes.

His argument surely is that it's the best this year though, right? Unless he's saying that it's almost the best this year, and by the end of the year will overtake other platforms as having the best this year.



Carl2291 said:
Rem87919394 said:

This place has clearly become a Nintendo fanboy page. Even the bans seem to always work in the fanboys favor. This place is completely different from years ago. Better places for balanced discussions 

Don't let the door hit you on your way out.



TallSilhouette said:
Pavolink said:

And what kind of analysis do you believe Nintendo fans should make with the succesful stories posted by devs and the amount of new content announced frequently?

What conclusion should be reached with that? Or must fans should be quiet about it?

Maybe this kind of nonsense will be avoided if in first place people warned devs to not believe in their success, let alone post it to let anyone know about it.

That some indies are seeing success on Switch and the console is on a good path. That's it. It's absolutely fine to express approval and interest, not to talk out of your ass.

And that's exactly the OP. Switch being a success and the current focus. What exactly is the part that comes from an ass?



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RolStoppable said:
CGI-Quality said:

Correct.

I am done skimming through the thread. I don't think it can be saved. One user got permabanned, so the thread already served a purpose. That's a win and probably the only positive thing that could come out of this thread, so it's probably for the best to lock the thread sooner than later.

Banning an alt account is hardly a victory.



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Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

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Pavolink said:
TallSilhouette said:

That some indies are seeing success on Switch and the console is on a good path. That's it. It's absolutely fine to express approval and interest, not to talk out of your ass.

And that's exactly the OP. Switch being a success and the current focus. What exactly is the part that comes from an ass?

I never said anything about the OP in that reply, though he does say the Switch is "at least matching up to the indie support that PC gets." How is that anything but a ridiculous and unfounded claim? 



TallSilhouette said:
Pavolink said:

And that's exactly the OP. Switch being a success and the current focus. What exactly is the part that comes from an ass?

I never said anything about the OP in that reply, though he does say the Switch is "at least matching up to the indie support that PC gets." How is that anything but a ridiculous and unfounded claim? 

I edited the OP.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

TallSilhouette said:
Pavolink said:

Nonsense? Like what nonsense?

That indies are being succesful on the Switch?

Like everything I just quoted. A few indies (out of hundreds released this year) become successful on Switch and suddenly it's the best place for indie games, where all/most of said games RUN as well or better, the library has/will have more good ones than anywhere else, and there's no reason to buy an indie game on any other platform. It's absurd.

You quoted me, and I said none of these things. I actually said some indies, and I'm fully aware that others are not.

But you also fail to notice the significance. It is an actual saying, that only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo consoles. Or differently turned: Nintendo users don't buy games. I pointed towards that by turning it into a joke with PS4 replacing NIntendo. You seemingly didn't got it. Indies are games practically no one buys a console for. So indies usually (and I emphasize usually) do best on platforms with better userbase, as more people are exposed to it. If a user owns multiple platforms, he often choose the platform with the best version of the game or the most convenient one. But now not one, but multiple indie games, sell best on a platform with userbase still small. Sure, that still means most games sell best on PC. But the base is still growing, and it is Nintendo which usually is bad news for sales of third-parties. Obviously something changed, You fail to notice that and instead hallucinate something into my post that never were in it. Do you really feel entitled accusing others to spew nonsense? You might want to tread more carefully if you wanna avoid looking like a fool.



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Lawlight said:
Green098 said:

Please try and make a good argument against my statement instead please. Infact I'll do it for you since I find it fun to discuss all kinds of stuff.

There are benefits over Switch when it comes to buying indie games on steam for example; you can have all your games in the one place and can play them on pc windows device. Some other platforms may have better exclusive indie games to certain people or such as if you love VR indie games which would be impossible on Switch. Maybe with Xbox and Playstation's subscription service you can get free indie games every month which could be seen as a better place for playing indies due to value.

I mean I didn't say in all cases, if you can't get the game for any better value, content, graphics, controls, etc, elsewhere Switch is the best platform for them due to portability in my opinion.

What about people who don't care about portability?

They buy it somewhere else, probably on PC. Nobody said everyone feels the same. Some people even bought multiplats on WiiU or Vita.



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