guiduc said:
potato_hamster said:
The hilarious thing is that I'm just as "accredited" if not more so as many of the people who are paid to review video games. Take Colin Moriarty for example. Former Senior Editor at IGN has an American History degree from Northwestern. He got his job at IGN because one of the senior editors there took a liking to his lengthy walthroughs for RPGs. He is directly responsible for hundreds of review scores used on metacritic's aggregator. Jim Sterling doesn't seem to have any university education of any kind, yet here he is on metacritic as well, fucking with Breath of the Wild's metacritic score.
But where are you getting this nonsense about "getting accredited". This accrediation process you demand I meet doesn't appear to exist from what I can find. Metacritic chooses which review sites to include, the reviewers don't apply.
But you are making unfounded claims. You're passing off what amounts to the aggregation of peoples opinions as objective when it clearly isn't. There mere fact that you think it's reasonable to use a logical fallacy to support your argument, is telling. You can only consider it a valid inductive argument if everyone agrees that these people's opinions matter more than everyone elses. Woops. Looks like I just blew holes in that, didn't I?
You're equating "Video game review sites in general review this game higher than this other game" as "this game is objectively better than this other game". The two are not the same.
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Uh? But that goes in circles? If there is no way to determine a common tendency, a tangent, because you reject the basics of the arguments I made, although they are accepted by a majority, I can't really debate on that. I'm sorry you have so little faith in the review system.
And btw, fuck no. I didn't say it was pure objectivity. I said aggregation are able to weed out some of the poorest reviews in terms of quality and argumentativity. There isn't any fallacy about that. Critics are not the only way to try and establish objectivity, they are a part of it.
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It's not that I have little faith in the review system, I just understand what it is. It's mostly composed people like you and me that are decent writers and decided to play and review games for a living. That's it. As a result, I use reviews as an indicator of whether or not I will like a game, not to determine whether one game is objectively better than another. You can't remove the subjectivity out of personal preference, and I don't pretend that it can be mitigated enough to be reasonably objective.
Now you're acting like Metacritic is some kind of authority? From their FAQ
"Why don't you include my publication in your panel?
We are always on the lookout for new sources of quality, well-written reviews that are well regarded in the industry or among their peers. Several times throughout the year, we will re-evaulate our current group of publications and make additions and deletions to our panel if necessary. If you feel that your publication deserves inclusion among this elite group, please let us know. Remember, we are only looking for high-quality websites (or print publications).
Can you tell me how each of the different critics are weighted in your formula?
So you have a group of people that are deciding which reviews to count and which ones to ignore, and weighting them differnetly based on uhhh... erm... secret sauce. How can this be seen as even reasonably objective?