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Aeolus451 said:
contestgamer said:

First of all, I didnt say jail. It might be a fine, mht be community service or re-education, or might be jail. Second, I dont understand the connection. Having laws that protct people isnt authoritaranism. 

Dictating how everyone lives by use of force, punishment and "re-education" is, bud. That's exactly what you're pushing for. 

Re-education isnt done by force like in communist states. It will be done through the education system so that kids can learn positive, socially conscious values at a young age. That is already happening to a large degree, but those kids havent grown up yet. This isnt some nefarious soviety era "re-education". 



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Leadified said:
Aeolus451 said:

lol "No we arent authoritarians like the far right are" then in the very next line he says "They'll be reeducated over time....". I guess he has no self-awareness huh? i don't know if he's being serious or not with this stuff.

It's a good argument for the horseshoe theory.

You are a horseshoe theory believer? D:



VGPolyglot said:
Leadified said:

It's a good argument for the horseshoe theory.

You are a horseshoe theory believer? D:

Not as a whole. But I agree with a few points such as Stalin's Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany have more in common with each other than with liberal democracies. Contestgamer's points sounds like it could come from either the far left or far right if you change up a few points.



Leadified said:
VGPolyglot said:

You are a horseshoe theory believer? D:

Not as a whole. But I agree with a few points such as Stalin's Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany have more in common with each other than with liberal democracies. Contestgamer's points sounds like it could come from either the far left or far right if you change up a few points.

Come on... I consider progressivism centrist - the real center in America. Far left is real, but thats authoratarian communism and no one is in favor of that. Cant believe youre throwing us under the same umberall, it's not even close. Most progressives are against far lefties like Antifa and Stalin. And many of todays so called far left is really right wingers trying to pretend its the left.



Leadified said:
VGPolyglot said:

You are a horseshoe theory believer? D:

Not as a whole. But I agree with a few points such as Stalin's Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany have more in common with each other than with liberal democracies. Contestgamer's points sounds like it could come from either the far left or far right if you change up a few points.

Now, it depends on whether or not you consider the Soviet Union and Germany to actually be following a far left/far-right scale in which they are on opposite ends of the scale, or if it was mainly a point or rhetoric to gain support/motivation from the people of the country. Yes, they share many similarities, but they are both authoritarian regimes, so is it that far-left and far-right are similar, or that authoritarian regimes will naturally have similar methods?



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contestgamer said:
Leadified said:

Not as a whole. But I agree with a few points such as Stalin's Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany have more in common with each other than with liberal democracies. Contestgamer's points sounds like it could come from either the far left or far right if you change up a few points.

Come on... I consider progressivism centrist - the real center in America. Far left is real, but thats authoratarian communism and no one is in favor of that. Cant believe youre throwing us under the same umberall, it's not even close. Most progressives are against far lefties like Antifa and Stalin. And many of todays so called far left is really right wingers trying to pretend its the left.

You're the same person that weeks ago considered progressives the far left, and had a new term for communists/anarchists, deeming them as part of the ultra left.



contestgamer said:
DonFerrari said:

You wanted to make a law to throw to jail everyone that offends a minority.

First of all, I didnt say jail. It might be a fine, mht be community service or re-education, or might be jail. Second, I dont understand the connection. Having laws that protct people isnt authoritaranism. 

And isn't that controlling and authoritarism? Law is a form of authoritarism.

And you are also trying social engineering, which is another form of control.

Aeolus451 said:
DonFerrari said:

You wanted to make a law to throw to jail everyone that offends a minority.

lol "No we arent authoritarians like the far right are" then in the very next line he says "They'll be reeducated over time....". I guess he has no self-awareness huh? i don't know if he's being serious or not with this stuff.

Well he is left wing in the very core of shifting the meanings and everything to conform to his agenda.

Leadified said:
Aeolus451 said:

lol "No we arent authoritarians like the far right are" then in the very next line he says "They'll be reeducated over time....". I guess he has no self-awareness huh? i don't know if he's being serious or not with this stuff.

It's a good argument for the horseshoe theory.

please elaborate the horshoe theory...

But just in case several people and scholars in Brazil put Nazism in the same extrem left with Communism. Because both want total control of population and economy, used external enemies, had their partnership, etc, I won't elaborate because I don't want to enter the discussion of Nazism is right or left, it doesn't really change anything except that about everyone already accepted Nazism as bad but still try to defend communism.



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VGPolyglot said:
Locknuts said:

And why would you need to fire someone for PR reasons if identity politics were not prevalent among the MSM, academia, etc?

Even the guy it was directed at didn't care. It's the PC cultural marxists at it again.

"Cultural Marxism", I've seen that term many times, yet what does it even mean? What separates that from just "Marxism"?

Well Marxism is based on class struggle: a revolution against the elites within society. With those in power now on the left, a new type of Marxism has formed: one based on identity politics (race, gender etc) in order for the elites to remain protected from the revolution prescribed by Marx. They are mostly adherents of Marxism, but are now the Animal Farm pigs.

 



contestgamer said:
Leadified said:

Not as a whole. But I agree with a few points such as Stalin's Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany have more in common with each other than with liberal democracies. Contestgamer's points sounds like it could come from either the far left or far right if you change up a few points.

Come on... I consider progressivism centrist - the real center in America. Far left is real, but thats authoratarian communism and no one is in favor of that. Cant believe youre throwing us under the same umberall, it's not even close. Most progressives are against far lefties like Antifa and Stalin. And many of todays so called far left is really right wingers trying to pretend its the left.

You lost me at the whole reeducation part. I can understand what you're trying to say by teaching kids how to behave but you're reeducating adults simply based on "offense" is a sure fire way to create an authoritarian state.

VGPolyglot said:
Leadified said:

Not as a whole. But I agree with a few points such as Stalin's Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany have more in common with each other than with liberal democracies. Contestgamer's points sounds like it could come from either the far left or far right if you change up a few points.

Now, it depends on whether or not you consider the Soviet Union and Germany to actually be following a far left/far-right scale in which they are on opposite ends of the scale, or if it was mainly a point or rhetoric to gain support/motivation from the people of the country. Yes, they share many similarities, but they are both authoritarian regimes, so is it that far-left and far-right are similar, or that authoritarian regimes will naturally have similar methods?

Yes I do, and naturally they will use similar methods because each had a similar goal in mind: to extinguish dissidents and maintain total control. Control will not vary much based on your political leanings.



Locknuts said:
VGPolyglot said:

"Cultural Marxism", I've seen that term many times, yet what does it even mean? What separates that from just "Marxism"?

Well Marxism is based on class struggle: a revolution against the elites within society. With those in power now on the left, a new type of Marxism has formed: one based on identity politics (race, gender etc) in order for the elites to remain protected from the revolution prescribed by Marx. They are mostly adherents of Marxism, but are now the Animal Farm pigs.

 

"With those in power now on the left" yes, because Donald Trump/the Republicans in the US, and the Conservatives in the UK can really be considered to be on the left.

Leadified said:
contestgamer said:

Come on... I consider progressivism centrist - the real center in America. Far left is real, but thats authoratarian communism and no one is in favor of that. Cant believe youre throwing us under the same umberall, it's not even close. Most progressives are against far lefties like Antifa and Stalin. And many of todays so called far left is really right wingers trying to pretend its the left.

You lost me at the whole reeducation part. I can understand what you're trying to say by teaching kids how to behave but you're reeducating adults simply based on "offense" is a sure fire way to create an authoritarian state.

VGPolyglot said:

Now, it depends on whether or not you consider the Soviet Union and Germany to actually be following a far left/far-right scale in which they are on opposite ends of the scale, or if it was mainly a point or rhetoric to gain support/motivation from the people of the country. Yes, they share many similarities, but they are both authoritarian regimes, so is it that far-left and far-right are similar, or that authoritarian regimes will naturally have similar methods?

Yes I do, and naturally they will use similar methods because each had a similar goal in mind: to extinguish dissidents and maintain total control. Control will not vary much based on your political leanings.

Now then, that creates another problem, because both the Soviet Union and Nazy Germany considered themselves socialist. If we are to believe their rhetoric, they can't both be correct, or else they wouldn't be on opposite sides of the scale. So, either one of them is manipulating the working class with socialist rhetoric in order to keep their support, or both of them are.