You're absolutely right. I don't have the right to criticise Bioshock or Mass Effect, because I am not their intended audience. You also do not have the right to criticise the policy decisions of Nintendo, because you are not their intended audience.

I don't hate inanimate objects like games. I resent the policy decisions of Microsoft employees.

Super Smash Bros. Melee(2002)
F-Zero GX(2003)
Voice acting in games(Early-90s)

I already mentioned that Intelligent Systems was an exception to the Nintendo rule, and they're the developers of the Fire Emblem, Advance Wars and Paper Mario series, which are in my opinion the top 3 Nintendo franchises story-wise. Coincidence? Nope.

As far as Wii-Ware how is Nintendo not last? Sony and Microsoft had theirs up since day one same as their online and Nintendo brought up the rear. Considering how online console gaming was started with Sega last gen and followed by Microsoft and then Sony last gen, it's sorta sad to see Nintendo still not have a well functioning online system in 2008. Sony's service is as free as Nintendo's but leans a lot more towards the quality of Xbox Live than Wii Connect 24(or whatever Nintendo calls their online). 

What are you talking about? I love Nintendo games. Advance Wars 2 is on my short-list of favorite games ever as is Super Mario Land 2. Intelligent Systems is one of my favorite developers ever on top of that. Just because I expect something more out of Nintendo doesn't make me less of a fan. Just because I'm not their Wii Play audience does not mean I'm not Nintendo's audience.

Stories in some of their games would vastly improve them, and I mean well-planned, well executed stories. The Legend of Zelda does such a poor job of telling a cohesive story game to game that fans are trying to piece together some insane multiple timeline story to try and connect them and Shigeru is forced to lie to fans that he has some document that shows the storyarch of the series.

i completely agree. who says games cant be fun without brutally murdering other people?

I was actually trying to say that Nintendo wasn't that far behind as switching to discs, but I failed badly at that.

Also Super Mario 64 had some voice acting in it. (Didn't Peach's voice actor read the letter at the beginning of the game?)

I think a lot of you are mising the point. He is not saying that violent video games are bad, but he is saying that nintendo are providing something whole and pure for every age group, and that in it self helps kill the stigma about gaming today. Why do nintendo need to put an extensive story line in their games when every other company does already. The people who love story driven games are being catered for by about 90% of the industry so y complain about nintendo not offering story lines in their games. And to be fair apart from Metroid which still sold very well, nearly every nintendo made game has past the 1 mill mark, so thats proof enough that their types of games are still enjoyed by many.

When i think about zelda OOT, That game is still amazing to me right now, it didn't really have a strong story-line per-se, but it gave you your own adventure, and it seemed nearly every body who i have talked that played it, spoke about their own adventures with the game which were kinda different to mine, and to me thats the Mastery (is that a word) of Nintendo when they get things right. I enjoyed playing zelda TP, but it did not have the same feeling that OOT had, they listened to their fans too much, thus the game was missing soul, anyway thats my opinion.

Ps. Agreed on the fact that the people that say nintendo are for kids, are probably kids them selfs

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If you're talking about discs then Nintendo is yet again in the rear. In fact, their stubborness with switching to discs cost them their market share and king of the hill status.

As far as Nintendo incorporating small amounts of voice acting in it's games, that's not what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if one line is uttered in Peach's voice in Mario 64 or that the SEGA Genesis games had a voice yelling "SEGA!" before the title screen. I mean voice acting that tells the story as opposed to scrolling text or no story at all. Name for me all of the Nintendo games that use voice acting to tell the story and i'll name for you how long ago most other developers started implementing this in their games. 

That's funny because I don't see your argument either. Of course I'm happy with the other developers that do it. Why should I not expect better out of Nintendo? Should they be the exception who can get away with these things? It doesn't matter if Nintendo does or doesn't have the tech to do it since they don't do it at all. The reasons are irrelevant. Actually it's worse that they have the means to do it and still don't.

Also why would I want to wait until Nintendo's sales dropped before they decided to further themselves in these areas? That's how they lost marketshare to first Sega and then massively to Sony. It was their stubborness against change.