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I never knew that the PS3 was originally supposed to come out in April of 2006. I guess the fact that they couldn't show games was a hint that they were not ready for that original time frame.



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Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

well you could see that as arrogance or ambition

I see it as a big ol' foot in the mouth.



Feels like yesterday. My how time flew.



I miss Kutaragi being in charge. He always invisioned PlayStation as the center of our digital lives. PlayStation was intended to be Smartphones, Smart Speakers, and Your PC all in one. A single highly optimized ecosystem that inhanced the value of our digital content, and made our lives easier with digital assistance.

I hope that the real vision for PlayStation is still alive at Sony.

The same rings true for Microsoft as well. They two had the vision of Xbox becoming the widely adopted PC of the future. I would love to see consoles continue to gtow and reach smartphone level sales in the future.



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If bluray didn't need to be saved and Ken didn't go Krazy and PS3 launched at a reasonable price, it would've outsold the PS2 and force MS out of the industry, no joke.

KBG29 said:
I miss Kutaragi being in charge. He always invisioned PlayStation as the center of our digital lives. PlayStation was intended to be Smartphones, Smart Speakers, and Your PC all in one. A single highly optimized ecosystem that inhanced the value of our digital content, and made our lives easier with digital assistance.

I hope that the real vision for PlayStation is still alive at Sony.

The same rings true for Microsoft as well. They two had the vision of Xbox becoming the widely adopted PC of the future. I would love to see consoles continue to gtow and reach smartphone level sales in the future.

He indeed was visionary but 2005 was too early for a "central entertainment system" and one box was never gonna work out. They should've started the iterative platform way back in the 90s, with higher priced consoles that have extra capabilities back then. Not about higher resolutions and fps, but things a regular PC could do like a web browser, email, printing support etc and price it accordingly, a "cheap home computer" for the family.



fielding88 said:
Soundwave said:

Kutaragi was high, but Microsoft thought this too. That's why they made the XBox, because they (foolishly) thought Playstation was some kind of threat to move into the computer business somehow. 

What Microsoft badly misjudged is their true competetion would come from Apple and Google, whom they were paying no attention to. Today Android is the no.1 OS in the world and MS compeletely missed the boat on smartphones (which Ballmer admits now). Playstation was always a paper tiger, Apple and Google were the real threats. The 100 million that Sony sells in game consoles over 5-6 years is laughably small potatoes compared to iPhone or Samsung Galaxy shipments. 

To add to that, the article mentions how Microsoft was looking for the Google threat, but in the desktop space and not the mobile space. They were looking at the raptor in front of them and missed the one to the side. 
 

to be fair it basically falls on the fact that Microsoft has never been a gaming company, but a software company

 

the fact that they felt it was so necessary to gain a presence in the gaming sector is just strange, considering their bread and butter from inception till now has been their software suites and OS (Windows)

I think around 2000 Microsoft was just at the point of being so large they were obsessed with trying to monopolize all computer software related things

it is kind of hilarious how poorly Microsoft has done at getting a piece of the pie in the mobile OS market considering they have had such an advantage. Even to this day Microsoft probably still has the strongest latch into the most homes/families- Windows is practically what people identify with computers and the Apple OS for home computing still is not close in terms of usage/popularity

but, yeah, odd MIcrosoft was so focused on the consoles in the early 2000s when mobile phones were already on a massive rise. Talk about looking the wrong direction when it was quite obvious where things were going



How time flies. Back then everyone was watching Sony and Microsoft and Kutaragi actually thought the Playstation would become the center of the living room. That's why Microsoft was afraid: What if people played games, watched movies, listened to music on their Playstation instead of a PC? I don't think anyone outside of Kutaragi really thought the Playstation could replace computers (how would that work? Adobe Photoshop with a Dualshock?)

What has been proven time and again in this industry is that the market is here for the games. While Sony had lofty ambitions with Blu-Ray, Microsoft focused more on the games and gained marketshare. Nintendo focused even more on the games and disrupted the market with the Wii. "Gaming journalists" swallowed the Kool-Aid and were simply repeating what Sony and Microsoft told them and said Nintendo's success was a mystery, even though Nintendo talked non-stop about disruption and blue oceans.

And the story always repeats itself: The PSP also focused on multimedia (UMD, music, videos) and lost to the DS. This generation, Microsoft was talking so much about the Xbox One as an entertainment hub, while Sony focused on the games - and won. Nintendo was interested in 3D with the 3DS and "asymmetric gameplay" with the Wii U - and both consoles failed, at least initially (I mean... the lastest 3DS iteration is the 2DS XL). Now they are talking about the games again with the Switch and - surprise - the console is a hit.



"Ken Kutaragi who is considered the father of the Playstation said in 1994 that the biggest threat to Playstation was not Nintendo but Microsoft"

What? Why? How? Back in 94? I mean did he seriously want the PS to replace PC all the way back then? Even if it did they were selling it as a console .... confusing!

This is interesting. So Microsoft changed from Peter Moore to Don Mattrick to Phil Spencer?



I didn't know that the console wars were so bloody.

Back then I had never heard of XBox and I thought my Sega retro console was a Playstation.