Forums - General Discussion - What are your thoughts and feelings on smart devices in home (echo, home, etc)?

Are you concerned about privacy issues with these devices?

Yes 33 71.74%
 
No 10 21.74%
 
Results 3 6.52%
 
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Amazon has come out an officially repeated the FACT that these things can't call 911, but these stories persist. A sheriff's office even kept insisting they were called by an Echo: THEY DON'T DO THAT! So: worry about them listening 24/7. I'll worry about credulously believing internet tripe. Was the battered wife's name Alexa or Ok, Google in all these supposed instances? Even if they could call 911, they wouldn't trigger without their key words.



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sethnintendo said:

I was just wondering what people thought about these devices.  Are you concerned with privacy?  Do you not care about being listened to 24/7?  There have been some interesting situations that have come up already with these devices.  Such as this one incident (which I believe it has occurred multiple times already) in which a couple is having an arguement that is escalating to the point of abuse or possible murder where the guy or woman shouts out what are you going to call the cops or something like that.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/police-amazon-echo-device-called-911-during-attack/2202749/

So yea maybe in those cases the person does need someone listening to them 24/7.  I don't really see a need or care for such a product.  I would use it as much as a tablet (which is 0%).  Some features might be neat to play music through bluetooth but I have plenty of other "dumb" devices that can manage these tasks. 

So let me know your opinion on such devices being used within your home.

I personally don't understand all the fear that people have over privacy in the modern era. Yes, they could access your infromation 24/7 - thing is, the people that can do that have no interest in doing so. The worst that usually happens is some algorithms sorting through your data to give you personnalized advertisment - but who the fuck cares that a computer looked through your data? Actually, I really wouldn't even care if other people looked through my data, if it's some random office worker who knows me as nothing else than potential customer no.9887868.

I guess some regulation regarding secure encryption and safe, anonymous data transaction could be good. But the collection itself, I'm really just fine with.



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Yeeeeeah I don't think I'll buy-in to a system like that. The progression of tech to that level of integration into every day life is kindaeventually inevitable, but I like my privacy =p unless there are -serious- productivity and value gains to be made from it, it's just not worth the trade off imo. It's not even close to that break-even mark yet, for me.



The idea of it is cool until you realize you are letting big corps pry in your private life. So I don't have any smart devices and don't want any. I used to be the tech guy since I was a kid up until maybe 2 years ago. Now I just keep up just enough to know how to fix stuff and use it but I don't know what the latest trend is nor care.



Most of these "smart devices" will break sooner (how long does a fridge last vs how long does an internet connected device last). They don't really make your life any easier and they're a massive security risk.

No thanks.



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WolfpackN64 said:
Most of these "smart devices" will break sooner (how long does a fridge last vs how long does an internet connected device last). They don't really make your life any easier and they're a massive security risk.

No thanks.

But what about internet connected fridges, those things are the best.



ktay95 said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Most of these "smart devices" will break sooner (how long does a fridge last vs how long does an internet connected device last). They don't really make your life any easier and they're a massive security risk.

No thanks.

But what about internet connected fridges, those things are the best.

That's my point: They're expensive, they'll breal faster and they don't do anything more that's really all that usefull considering the price and endurance.



I don't care about the privacy issue all that much as I'm of the opinion everybody gets tracked already regardless. I do hope that we are all just numbers though & aren't identified personally just for the fact that it's pretty creepy. Either way, nothing I can do about it so why bother worrying?

With that said, I'm not a fan of smart devices. I find them to be rather useless in their current form. The only smart devices I like are phones & tablets but they've hit a wall too. They keep getting "upgraded" but for what I use them for, I'd rather save the money and keep using what I already have.



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It's just sad that, a few decades ago, 2030 might still have been envisioned as people having vacations on the space or even the Moon, but instead, what do we get?

A fridge which spies that your bacon supplies are getting low, and in turn you are bombarded with ads about processed pork on your smartphone, courtesy of your friends at Google and Amazon. So, you go to the grocery store on your driverless car without a steering wheel, but it has been remotely hacked from North Korea over the last night. The windows and doors shut automatically, a computer voice says "now driving to hell", and you are never seen again.

Not the future we need, but maybe the one we deserve, considering how retarded the average joe probably is.



 

 

 

 

 

They're awful. Even if I trusted the privacy policies of the companies, there would still be the fact that they're often unpatched and thus unsecure pieces of garbage. Seriously, their security is often ignored and even if it's initially taken care of, the devices won't be patched once someone figures out how to hack them. Then you get massive botnets of freaking toasters that can take down PSN/XBL/whatever service you like.

Also, even if the devices do get updates, way too often they seem to happen at the worst possible moments. Smart lock? I wouldn't have wanted to leave my house for work anyway. Smart lighting? I wouldn't have wanted to turn on/off the lights anyway. Sleep is for the weak!

I'm OK with the technology itself, it's just that I'm really worried about the devices' information security and the pricacy policies of the companies making them. At the very least I must be able to turn off microphones/cameras for good, with no way to turn them on remotely even if I was suspected of trying to set off a nuke. I value my privacy; it's mine and no one else's.