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I was under the impression the current switch dock was nothing more than a piece of plastic holding the cables in place and providing the easy TV connection without affecting the console's power at all.



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This is the same guy who teased Seasons of Heaven before it was announced. I would not trust him.



freebs2 said:
Well of course the biggest card hasn't been played yet.
Where is my Retro Studios title?

That's the billion dollar question right now. 



TruckOSaurus said:
I was under the impression the current switch dock was nothing more than a piece of plastic holding the cables in place and providing the easy TV connection without affecting the console's power at all.

The dock gives the Switch a power bump making it slightly more powerful. That's why games like Splatoon 2 looks better docked than on handheld mode.



jason1637 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
I was under the impression the current switch dock was nothing more than a piece of plastic holding the cables in place and providing the easy TV connection without affecting the console's power at all.

The dock gives the Switch a power bump making it slightly more powerful. That's why games like Splatoon 2 looks better docked than on handheld mode.

No it doesn't. The dock is just a big piece of plastic with outputs for usb/hdmi/power cables. The Switch runs in a low power mode when not docked in order to preserve battery life, when docked it is plugged in and so runs to its full capabtilities, the dock itself doesn't do anything. The dock is just a big adaptor, in fact you can even buy a third party adaptor that is the size of a normal adaptor dongle thing instead of using the dock. The dock simply holds the switch and connects it to power and the tv.



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I've grown weary of SMD64 and the things he tends to "predict". He seems to have it out for the Switch because muh graphics, even though hardware wise the Switch is the most powerful it could be. And as for him saying that there would be 2 Metroid games, many people have been saying that for the past 3 years. Are they all of a sudden insiders now?



There's only so much you can do with ARM right now. Especially when you would have to transmit all data from the switch via USB 3.1 before it can be processed by whatever the hell would be in this super-duper-dock.

Not gonna happen.



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Oh good, a super vague rumor that can be attributed to any announcement Nintendo makes! Without any details I can only see this as trying to take advantage of getting the Metroid predictions correct.

-Lonely_Dolphin



Slownenberg said:
mizzou_guy said:
Given that this thing just came out, and I just got my hands on one last month, I'd be pretty pissed off if a hardware upgrade came out already. If Nintendo is going to be putting out hardware replacements at such a fast rate, I'll probably end up just selling my console and not bothering with it.

Why in the world would that make you sell the system?!?! That's just bizarre. Are xbox and ps3 owners saying they will just get rid of their system because of pro and X? No, because that doesn't make any sense. A hardware upgrade in no way affects you. It just gives more options.

 

I think there will definitely be a Switch Lite (perhaps with no joycons and sells with no dock, but that can still connect to a separately sold dock for the hybridness) and a Switch XL or whatever that fills in the blank bezels on the system with more screen real estate and has updated chip for more efficiency and higher battery life with bigger harddrive too.

Now the final different version of Switch they could do would of course be a more powerful home console half of the hybrid-system, and making a performance enhancing dock would be the best way to do this. Don't know if this will ever happen but it would be cool. The only question is how would developers handle it. Obviously every game would still need to be able to play on all the Switch versions, so I imagine improved performance would be pretty narrowly handled. Like higher framerate, though most Switch games already are 60fps, or higher resolution (2k?/4k?) or maybe developer could simply switch on some extra graphical effects when in performance enhancing dock. The piece of plastic dock is already absurdly priced when sold separately at $90, i bet it probably costs like $10 to make, so if they'd have to seriously adjust their dock pricing because no way should an upgraded dock cost more than $150.

Still though, dock upgrade could be Nintendo's 4k answer to ps4 pro and xbox one x, if it was used primarily to upgrade resolutions in tv mode. And it would be a much better upgrade option for Switch owners than ps4 and xbox owners who have to buy a whole new even more expensive console. I don't know how much hardware it would take to boost Switch games to 4k, but since all it would need to do is boost resolution, while the Switch itself handles the rest, and Switch graphics will still be the same, it should be wayyyyyy cheaper than sony and MS 4k options. In a year I could see a $150 4k Switch dock be feasible that just includes extra RAM, more cpu power, and a fan.

This also could give consumers all sorts of pricing options which would be good as long as its not too confusing. Could one day buy a cheap Switch Lite handheld, or original Switch with original dock, or original Switch with 4k dock, or Switch XL with original dock, or Switch XL with 4k dock.

Though even if they do come out with this, it won't be anytime soon. Nothing new will come out until Nintendo can double their Switch production in order to meet demand.

Because I just bought it, and if this is true, then Nintendo is expecting me to buy a hardware upgrade already in order to get the most out my system.  The thing isn't even a year old, so if Nintendo was planning on putting out a stronger dock, they should have included it from the getgo so that early adopters wouldn't be screwed out of more money if they want to play their games to their fullest potential.  I would be selling the system, because I wouldn't want to support the console if it's going to be on a constant hardware-upgrade model.  That's the point of owning a home console, is to know you'll be set for a few years with what you have and not have to worry about your hardware falling behind.



nVidia's been trying to push external GPU setups for a long while - but they largely haven't worked out from a value proposition standpoint. They're also kind of bulky.

Now if you adopt the Tegra X1 into an external GPU - it's smaller, cheaper and still  more power-efficient than your typical external GPU. All the same, you can double the Switch performance to nearly 2 TF in this way and gain AAA support. All with a simple dock upgrade.

Of course, titles that really need that extra power can't really be portable, but a Vita like remote play solution is still nice. I think they go for all-digital distribution model.

The same way Switch was a revision of the Shield tablet - so too nVidia/Nintendo will roll out products that have the spirit of other nVidia offterings like gamestream and external GPUs.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016