It's not really high price for hybrid, you cant rely have hi power with hybrid, exclusives are killing it, just Zelda BotW is one strongest ever game like launch game for any system, target audience was obvious from start, home console and handheld lowers in same time.

Like I wrote, Switch has great concept that aims handheld and home console market in same time, and had huge system seller game like Zelda BotW followed by MK8D, it was quite obvious that want be fail. But some people passed that and still were negative about Switch, but that mostly comes from Wii U faile.

Yeah, people on forums tend to think that their beliefs is shared by the entire gaming community.

These look like very good reasons.

Aye there was a poll on here a while back to see what % of users of this forum had upgraded to the pro ps4 and then how many would get the X model of X1, and trying to suggest that those figures would be an idea of the % of the total sales of the system, when the reality is that enthusiasts like the users of VGchartz are naturally a whole lot more likely to buy the premium console than your average joe who wants the cheapest machine that will play Fifa and Call of duty.

There wasn't a guy some time ago that was making a pool to see if the Switch users were mostly Wii U owners upgrading? Those people are priceless.

If people feel it's a high price, then it is a high price. Turns out the price is not too high, but there was a lot of criticism about the price before the launch. Switch is weak, no matter how you spin it, and it's a negative thing. It might be acceptable, but it's still a negative thing. One exclusive isn't enough in the long run. Luckily BotW doesn't seem to be the only strong exclusive, but I wouldn't exactly say criticising Switch's exclusives was invalid criticism either. The target audience was tough because it's both core gamers and more casual gamers. Generally it seems like the more casual audience is more interested in smartphone gaming these days, so getting their interest seemed difficult. On the other hand, Switch's weak power is more problematic for a lot of core gamers. I don't think being worried about the target audience was an invalid reason to be skeptical either.

There were (and are) a lot of things that supported Switch's success even before its launch, but there were also a lot of reasons why people might not be so confident in it. It requires a lot of insight to be able to properly assess all the things properly in an unbiased manner, and I don't think I've seen a single person on this site show such insight. It's possible there are some cases with proper insight in them, but most cases where people have been predicting anything about Switch's fate have been cases where people have made very shallow 'analyses'.

Nice cherry picking there, mate. It's a negative, and seeing how big of a negative it is wasn't necessarily an easy task before the launch of Switch. In hindsight, it's easy to say it's not a problem, but I don't think I saw anyone make a proper analysis about how the market would react to the exclusive situation of Switch before its launch. A lot of people said a lot of things about it, but a proper analysis? If there was even one on this site, I probably missed it.

Gimmicks are always hard to analyze, and the same remark about analyses goes for them as well.

Immediately after the January reveal it was absolutely valid to have negative reactions.

I was very hyped and excited after the October teaser. My son and I had plans to immediately get pre-orders in place when available.

Then January happened and we both were shocked at price, online choices and the initial thought of no games beyond Zelda were worth anything. We decided to not pre-order.

Then as the initial reaction smoothed over and even more info came out about 2017 games, full functionality, etc.. the realization that I set myself up for disappointment on the price and it actually had a solid 2017 line-up caused us to get pre-orders into our local Walmart which thankfully had opened up in-store options.

So, its not so bad that January predictions where so off from what is now reality. However, anything being predicted in since April that didn't have Switch as a resounding success was just foolish. Even though I am still disappointed with their solution for online, everything else is awesome IMO and will easily make-up for that issue. 10MM plus is a done deal this year. I'm even willing to say that Switch sells more by the end of 2017 than WiiU LTD. I have faith Nintendo will produce enough and people will continue to gobble it up.

Dear lord yes, I know that guy from Facebook he was on the "console purists" group there, was banging on the same drum on that group trying to suggest that since people in that group had a Nintendo machine before that meant that all Switch buyers were loyal Nintendo fanboys.... you know... In a group called Console Purists... suggesting you could make a point if the people in the group owned a console.

I actually had him blocked on Facebook and then seen the thread appear here, you'll notice I called him by his actual name in the thread just had to confirm it was the same guy from there.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8473155

I literally linked threads with people predicting that.

Haha xD

You didn't do so in your reply to me, and your post containing the links didn't in any way indicate what kind of threads they were. Also, the second thread didn't predict Switch was going to sell less than Wii U, so that leaves one thread.