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potato_hamster said:
LurkerJ said:

Eh. I don't have to. It's basic science. If you read about IBS, you will find that different patients respond to different dietary regimes. All of them are told to increase fiber intake but the problem is that there are no specifics given because nothing works for everyone. Eating lentil helps a lot but I got tired of making soup daily, so I had to look elsewhere since other vegetables and fruits didn't have a similar effect. However, the fibers in unprocessed cocoa powder is equally effective in my case. So I switched my daily cup of coffe with a cup of cocoa. Pills no more!

As for Ponaris, few drops in each nostril will create a physical barrier preventing allergens from sticking to the insides of the nasal walls preventing your body from reacting to them in the first place, it will lock the moisture in dry weather conditions. You can't use any oil on the shelf though, just the ones that are processed in a way that it would cause no problems if small amounts make it your lungs. Ponaris is prescribed by some doctors, some doctors told me to use vaseline in a similar fashion for the same basic concept I explained earlier.

Of course you have to prove it! Its fundamentally not science if you cannot prove it!

If its basic science it should be even easier to prove. Go ahead then. Put up or shut up.

I told you to read about IBS because it's easy to find out that fibers is the best thing you can do to keep symptoms at bay. In my case, lentil and cocoa work the best. Read here about the role of fibers in managing IBS on the official NHS website:

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Irritable-bowel-syndrome/Pages/Treatment.aspx

As for controlling allergies, the concept is simple, don't let the allergens in. You can do that by wearing a mask, staying indoors, or rubbing a bit vaseline or oil inside your nose, whatever suits you!

"NHS Choices suggests you rub Vaseline just inside your nostrils to keep pollen out"

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/may/02/hay-fever-pollen-misery-allergy-remedies



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LurkerJ said:
potato_hamster said:

Of course you have to prove it! Its fundamentally not science if you cannot prove it!

If its basic science it should be even easier to prove. Go ahead then. Put up or shut up.

I told you to read about IBS because it's easy to find out that fibers is the best thing you can do to keep symptoms at bay. In my case, lentil and cocoa work the best. Read here about the role of fibers in managing IBS on the official NHS website:

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Irritable-bowel-syndrome/Pages/Treatment.aspx

As for controlling allergies, the concept is simple, don't let the allergens in. You can do that by wearing a mask, staying indoors, or rubbing a bit vaseline or oil inside your nose, whatever suits you!

"NHS Choices suggests you rub Vaseline just inside your nostrils to keep pollen out"

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/may/02/hay-fever-pollen-misery-allergy-remedies

And where do either of these recommend essential oils? Ohh right. They don't. I guess that isn't actually the evidence I asked for.



potato_hamster said:
LurkerJ said:

I told you to read about IBS because it's easy to find out that fibers is the best thing you can do to keep symptoms at bay. In my case, lentil and cocoa work the best. Read here about the role of fibers in managing IBS on the official NHS website:

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Irritable-bowel-syndrome/Pages/Treatment.aspx

As for controlling allergies, the concept is simple, don't let the allergens in. You can do that by wearing a mask, staying indoors, or rubbing a bit vaseline or oil inside your nose, whatever suits you!

"NHS Choices suggests you rub Vaseline just inside your nostrils to keep pollen out"

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/may/02/hay-fever-pollen-misery-allergy-remedies

And where do either of these recommend essential oils? Ohh right. They don't. I guess that isn't actually the evidence I asked for.

I specifically talked about Ponaris and cocoa in my original post and not anything else. Just substitute cocoa with "fibers" (because it has fibers in it, like most plant-based food) and Ponaris with vaseline because they work similarly, they are not "drugs" but they create a barrier that traps pollen and locks in the moist.

Ponaris is sold in pharmacies and was recommended to me by my doctor when I told him that "vaseline is effective but it SUCKS to have it inside my nose"

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drugreview-18819-Ponaris+nasal.aspx?drugid=18819&drugname=Ponaris+nasal&pageIndex=1&sortby=3&conditionFilter=-500



numberwang said:
Dulfite said:

My favorite oil, as a man, is Shutran. It is called beard oil and pretty much every man who has it on is irresistable to women. Every girl I've ever heard talk about this oil pretty much dies when their man puts it on; my own wife as well. Aside from being appealing to the womenfolk, it makes your skin a lot less itchy under your beard (a problem I have a lot with my dry skin).

So you are married and still test your beard oil on every girl around?

If you suffer from allergies or skin irritations you should look into inflammation caused by modern processed food additions like preservative.

That's pretty much the principle I've built my life around.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

Nobody is trolling here. You just don't like being called on on your snake essential oil sales pitch for a pyramid scheme.



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LurkerJ said:
potato_hamster said:

And where do either of these recommend essential oils? Ohh right. They don't. I guess that isn't actually the evidence I asked for.

I specifically talked about Ponaris and cocoa in my original post and not anything else. Just substitute cocoa with "fibers" (because it has fibers in it, like most plant-based food) and Ponaris with vaseline because they work similarly, they are not "drugs" but they create a barrier that traps pollen and locks in the moist.

Ponaris is sold in pharmacies and was recommended to me by my doctor when I told him that "vaseline is effective but it SUCKS to have it inside my nose"

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drugreview-18819-Ponaris+nasal.aspx?drugid=18819&drugname=Ponaris+nasal&pageIndex=1&sortby=3&conditionFilter=-500

It appears I misunderstood. I thought when you mentioned "and no it's not a placebo" you were referring to the essential oils. That's what I was responding to. I apologize for that.



potato_hamster said:
LurkerJ said:

I specifically talked about Ponaris and cocoa in my original post and not anything else. Just substitute cocoa with "fibers" (because it has fibers in it, like most plant-based food) and Ponaris with vaseline because they work similarly, they are not "drugs" but they create a barrier that traps pollen and locks in the moist.

Ponaris is sold in pharmacies and was recommended to me by my doctor when I told him that "vaseline is effective but it SUCKS to have it inside my nose"

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drugreview-18819-Ponaris+nasal.aspx?drugid=18819&drugname=Ponaris+nasal&pageIndex=1&sortby=3&conditionFilter=-500

It appears I misunderstood. I thought when you mentioned "and no it's not a placebo" you were referring to the essential oils. That's what I was responding to. I apologize for that.

It's fine. A conversation about non-drug based therapies (recommended by doctors) would've been nice, but it seems like this thread will be deleted.



Dulfite said:
Nymeria said:
I can find no hard studies that show health benefits you're describing using these products.

I'll pass on your offer and would suggest others reading to do independent research on this business and product.

Yea, if there was a billion/trillion dollar medicinal industry at risk of losing market share, I'm sure the docts who prescribe the medicine are really going to be like "hey, let's tell the truth about this thing that could seriously harm the industry we work in." That people said we go to a doctor that recommends oils and is helping my wife fight an allergy problem (effectively, btw) that 4 previous doctors could not figure out from lord knows how many blood samples and "medicines" that did absolutely nothing.

Why doesn't your own industry with its own profits do independent studies to promote the benefits?  If there are billions to be made seem a nice incentive to be seen as legitimate and mainstream within society.



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I am legitimately curious as the what the OP was.