Ka-pi96 said:
Your aunt? Or Dany? Cuz one of those.... :O |
If Dany were my aunt: fuck yeah.
THE DRAGON AND THE WOLF RATING | |||
10 | 83 | 35.78% | |
9 | 61 | 26.29% | |
8 | 38 | 16.38% | |
7 | 23 | 9.91% | |
6 | 10 | 4.31% | |
5 | 4 | 1.72% | |
4 | 1 | 0.43% | |
3 | 1 | 0.43% | |
2 | 1 | 0.43% | |
1 | 10 | 4.31% | |
Total: | 232 |
Ka-pi96 said:
Your aunt? Or Dany? Cuz one of those.... :O |
If Dany were my aunt: fuck yeah.
Ka-pi96 said:
Are you saying that from personal experience? Are you blonde? |
It's a clear trend on Game of Thrones. Cersei would be proud of her.
Hiku said:
1.) Twice I believe. And don't strawman the argument. I didn't say it's not ok to question the source. Daenerys is free to do that. |
1) I didn't strawman the argument, you should look up the definition before making the claim.
2) What is a sensitive and a personal question depends on the person/culture, Dany brought up the topic giving Jon permission to ask her the question. If he brought it up himself then maybe I might see your point of view, but given the situation there is no way that was offensive.
3) The witch didn't make her barren in the show, so frankly they could have just left it out. Either way, I will gladly reevaluate my position when and if she does indeed have a child both in the books and tv.
4) Your entire argument is that the wheel will no longer be broken because Dany fancy's Jon. You are judging an episode based on what might happen in the future. Chances are he may call it off once he finds out he's a targaryen.
5) We don't know Jon's true name in the books, so it could literally be the exact same situation.
6) I did not provoke you, you took offense to the term "lol". I say lol for various reasons, but rarely to provoke. I couldn't for the life of me understand how you could take so much offense to one line(still don't). I also did not understand the whole point of your statement. I see now that you bolded the word "writing", which I initially missed. But even then, you are saying that the writing of the whole 81 minutes of television was bad because of one simple line.
So no, it was not flamebait, nor was I being childish. Though you were quick to make that accusation.
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Hiku said: Rant: And then there's D&D seemingly shitting on the rules established in previous seasons by GRR Martin.
If someone tells you "I can't have children", are you going to ask them "How do you know?" Then if she tells you that she's tried many times but had misscarriages, you'll feel like an insensitive asshole. But in this case it just coincidentally turns out to be the words of a magical witch, and Jon discredits her reliability, just so he can seemingly put a baby inside of her, because fuck "breaking the wheel", right? Let's just return to the usual way of succession.
Overall though it was a good episode. Although some of the high points were predictable, like the dragon destroying the wall, or Bran revealing whar Little Finger had said from a vision, after he previously repeated his "Chaos is a ladder". It was nice seeing some of the interactions between characters that hadn't seen each other in a long time. And there was some memorable dialogue and good acting. |
Agree with bold, if Jaime/ Cersei both acknowledge that they didn't even scratch or kill the 3rd dragon, then who else could have killed it but the army of the dead. And if they had no chance against a dragon, but the army of the dead killed one, then the threat is obvious.
Really a very disappointing season. John Snow has been turned into a blithering idiot and story is turning into a collection of bad dialogue and clichés.
Most action packed season but the most disappointing one as well. Felt like everything was rushed and the dialogue took a step back from what it was. With all that said, it's not a bad season still good overall and fun to watch.
I miss Ramsey as a villain but at least he died in a satisfying way. Little Finger's death was disappointing. At least his face was priceless. I feel like the most interesting bad guy right now is Euron Greyjoy easily.
smroadkill15 said: Most action packed season but the most disappointing one as well. Felt like everything was rushed and the dialogue took a step back from what it was. With all that said, it's not a bad season still good overall and fun to watch. I miss Ramsey as a villain but at least he died in a satisfying way. Little Finger's death was disappointing. At least his face was priceless. I feel like the most interesting bad guy right now is Euron Greyjoy easily. |
I wish Euron wasn't in the background for most of the season. Hopefully he gets more screentime for season 8.
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JakDaSnack said:
I wish Euron wasn't in the background for most of the season. Hopefully he gets more screentime for season 8. |
Agree with that. Hopeful doesn't die in some dumb was either.
I think one of the biggest problems with this season was how predictable it was. Everything went according to plan. This is why earlier seasons were great because you never knew who would die or if things would go right for once.
How the hell does one of the main characters not die during episode 6??
Hiku said:
1.) I questioned how appropriate it was for Jon to ask what he did, when he did. Your only reply to that was"possibly after 3 times", without elaborating. You then went on to talk about questioning the source in a general sense. But I never argued that. It's fine if Dany does it. You have just presented the definition, and still think I'm giving a strawman? seriously....like seriously? I'm sorry, but if you go back, it's blatently obvious I wasn't strawmaning....if you can't see it then there is no point in continuing this conversation, we can just agree to disagree....I said that after being asked 3 times(or twice whatever) that he then brought it up, and then gave an example as to why I think it was appropriate. THAT IS NOT STRAWMANNING!!!!!!!! Have you heard of the word empathy? It means the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. You are judging one line off a tv show with how you perceive the world. Not everyone shares the same feelings as you, just because you took offense, doesn't mean what he said was meant to be offensive. Nor does it mean that the show writers felt it would be offensive. Jon has never been in contact with a barren women before, we might assume that he could have read about it in a book growing up, but that would be assuming. So assuming that he meant that offensively, is wrong on your part. Yes, this would be pleading the ignorance card, but not everyone gets offended by such comments and Dany is depicted as a very strong women in the show, so her getting offended by such a comment would NOT be in character. then don't judge it now 4.) What happened to "The wheel has nothing to do with Targaryen ruling"? Specifically the succession of power from the iron throne passed down to children, which is what I specified. What was your interpretation of the wheel that you assessed that the succession of the iron throne had nothing to do with it? A democracy of sorts.
Irrelevent, I'm not arguing anything. You are turning a suggestion into an argument. Only that I found your comment obsurd (still do). Doesn't mean it is, you might have a decent argument, I just don't see it that way.
Did I say a single word about acting? Sigh.....Sorry, but arguing with someone who is constantly assumes and calls me a liar is not in my best interest. Like I said last post, I missed you bolding the word "writing". I don't get into a lot of arguments online so I don't always see things being bolded. Yes, I could "assume" that you were saying the writing was bad, but that isn't something I do. |
Anyways, it seems clear to me that all your arguments are about assumptions, and passing judgements based on those assumptions. You haven't said anything that has changed my view of this episode. I still enjoyed the writing and acting, and so I feel that I am done with this conversation. If you have something to add, go for it. But I am done, have a nice day.
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