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Nautilus said:

I also dont think that a Smash 4 port is happening simply because Nintendo dosent need it, as they had more than enough time to develop a new one and a new entry would turn more heads, but thats besides the point.

Well, I dont think that Smash is a title that will be announced at E3 to be released in Setember, which everyone assumes since the online service will need a game to convince people to jump in.Even though I think the current lineup of games and the price for the service is convincing enough.So if the Smash port is true, it should be announced at the next direct, which is bound to be either in February or March, given that Nintendo would probably want to hype the game up revealing charachters bit by bit, like they did originally with Smash 4.So it shouldnt take us long before we see if this ends up being true or not.

Here's the thing Smash 4 fits in with what Emily Rogers claimed about a port being on the way and the timing of the online subscription.

I'd argue they did need it to fill the void until other games arrive.



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Wyrdness said:
Nautilus said:

If that Retro game is true, and its something like RE 1 through 4 or 7 in terms of atmosphere  and gameplay(at least for how the basic gameplay will feel, without going what is unique about it), then that game would immediately jump to my most antecipated games list.

But I dont think thats legit, and I think thats more of a educated guess list.I base this simply because most games have been heavily rumored already and that I dont believe a Smash 4 port is happening.When Smash comes, it will be Smash 5.

Thing is the source was fully correct with his previous leak which gives him some substance an educated guess would not really make the claim on Retro's project like he has. This guy after all said Arms was going to be announced at the Switch event that's not a possible educated guess anyone would make.

I also thought Smash 5 but what he says makes sense tbh Smash for Switch with new content, it would keep S4 in the competitive scene for much longer as well as make up for any short comings Wii U had on the game.

The difference here is that this source leaked the games a few days before the event, when Nintendo already had all the presentation ready, with the videos and the stage plans all set up.And for that, the low level grunts had to be informed, which is where he could have gotten his information and most importantly of all, Nintendo didnt have time to changed anything anymore.Now he is leaking something that will only be revealed in about 5 months, something that Nintendo probably didnt even set in stone if they want to reveal at that time or not.I mean, for how many years have Miyamoto been saying that Pikmin 4 is basically ready?Or how many times have we heard that Pikmin 4 is going to be shown in the next direct?

And Emily Rogers has been right as many times as she has been wrong.Not saying that it shouldnt take it into account, but dont take it as a fact either.Actually, most of her leaks that has been correct are the ones that she leaks a few days before the reveal, not months in advance.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

RolStoppable said:
Nautilus said:

I also dont think that a Smash 4 port is happening simply because Nintendo dosent need it, as they had more than enough time to develop a new one and a new entry would turn more heads, but thats besides the point.

Well, I dont think that Smash is a title that will be announced at E3 to be released in Setember, which everyone assumes since the online service will need a game to convince people to jump in.Even though I think the current lineup of games and the price for the service is convincing enough.So if the Smash port is true, it should be announced at the next direct, which is bound to be either in February or March.

I still think its too "correct" to be legit, but we will see.

Considering how many years it takes from one SSB release to the next, I don't think there has been enough time to put out SSB5 in 2018.

The forum post isn't about games that will be announced at E3, it's about games that will be playable at E3. It's all coming from a guy who sets up demo booths.

I dont think that there will be a Smash game in 2018 either, thats my whole point.

I cant say he is 100% wrong, as he did get some things right.But do you really think the demo booth guy will know the E3 plans so many months in advance?Usually when leaks get things right, its usually when its leaked a few days before said event.Dont gets your hopes up, just saying.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

RolStoppable said:
Nautilus said:

I dont think that there will be a Smash game in 2018 either, thats my whole point.

I cant say he is 100% wrong, as he did get some things right.But do you really think the demo booth guy will know the E3 plans so many months in advance?Usually when leaks get things right, its usually when its leaked a few days before said event.Dont gets your hopes up, just saying.

But Nintendo will want to have as many online hits as possible to kickstart their paid service, hence why SSB has to be available. The more incentives there are, the more subscribers there will be.

The demo booth guy has more direct contact to Nintendo than someone like Emily Rogers. I concede that having so much information four months ahead of E3 is suspect, but that doesn't make it impossible. Worth of note is that the demo booth guy doesn't know the entire E3 plans, hence no third party games. The conventional approach to rumors and supposed leaks is to boost the game lists with third party titles.

Well, I guess its possible.I dont think that Smash is really necessary, since the Switch already has some multiplayer heavy games on it, such as Splatoon, Mario Kart 8 and the inevitable Animal Crossing(thats more of a guess that the multiplayer will be more important, but that seems to be the direction where the series is going to).

Plus, alongside the more attractive price to soothe people in the service, there must be a reason that Nintendo delayed the service for so long.It could very well have been the lack of a compelling game to launch alongside it, but I think they were revamping core concepts of the service, and these concepts could be compeling on its own.Just to throw some examples of what that could be:A better reward system, in which we get more games every month that was initially promised, deals that extend not only to first party, but third party as well, and have different deals each month.Launch it alongside Virtual Console, and give ample advantages for those that have the online service.

Just call me skeptical.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:

The difference here is that this source leaked the games a few days before the event, when Nintendo already had all the presentation ready, with the videos and the stage plans all set up.And for that, the low level grunts had to be informed, which is where he could have gotten his information and most importantly of all, Nintendo didnt have time to changed anything anymore.Now he is leaking something that will only be revealed in about 5 months, something that Nintendo probably didnt even set in stone if they want to reveal at that time or not.I mean, for how many years have Miyamoto been saying that Pikmin 4 is basically ready?Or how many times have we heard that Pikmin 4 is going to be shown in the next direct?

And Emily Rogers has been right as many times as she has been wrong.Not saying that it shouldnt take it into account, but dont take it as a fact either.Actually, most of her leaks that has been correct are the ones that she leaks a few days before the reveal, not months in advance.

Large events are actually planned months in advance especially large ones like E3, for example London comic con is planned like 7 months in advance, E3 is in June which means for an event that size everything would have to start to be set up in May which is 3 months away so him having plans now is not far fetched and it also still doesn't dispute how it lines up with the subscription either only two other games would push Nintendo's online and they're already out MK and Splatoon 2. Your point about Pikmin 4 doesn't make sense here as it's not debunking anything.

ER has been wrong at times yes but her claim on more remasters and ports (which the line up has two in Smash and SS) lines up some what with the rumour and the subscription



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RolStoppable said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:

Holy fuck if true, the second coming of E3 2013, but even though this has happened before, I can't help but feel it's way too good to be true. Nintendo doesn't need to reveal that many new games at once with the great position the Switch is in. Also if Yoshi is June then where does Mario Tennis/Hyrule Warriors go? How is it they know the date for Yoshi but not for anything else despite his information coming from the same place? They may have been right before but without proof or any way to prove what they say is true before the rumor becomes irrelevant, I'm taking this with a grain of salt.

You know, Switch being Nintendo's only console means that what was spread across 3DS and Wii U is now on one console. There's much less of a need to spread releases out and there's no reason to sit on games when they can be released and bring in the money. Additionally, not all of those games will release in 2018, just like last year's E3 had more than only 2017 games.

Mario Tennis and Hyrule Warriors are already confirmed for spring (don't know from memory whether it's March, April or May, but their months have been confirmed), but June onwards is still empty. The reason why Yoshi's release month would be known while nothing else is because of June. The further away a game is, the less likely it is to have precise information about it.

All true, but I just don't want to expect all my favorite games at one event no matter how likely. Less disappointment if that doesn't happen, more excitement if it does.

Based on ARMS June counts as Spring, so Mario Tennis/Hyrule Warriors could release there and the other in April since Labo isn't a traditional game, that's what I assumed was gonna happen atleast. I'd think the July game would also be set, perhaps August aswell if the June game is already decided. If you believe the idea that Nintendo wants a game to coincide with the paid online then the September game might also be set. I wont say these points debunk the rumor by any means, but they're still strange to me.



mZuzek said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:

Holy fuck if true, the second coming of E3 2013, but even though this has happened before, I can't help but feel it's way too good to be true. Nintendo doesn't need to reveal that many new games at once with the great position the Switch is in. Also if Yoshi is June then where does Mario Tennis/Hyrule Warriors go? How is it they know the date for Yoshi but not for anything else despite his information coming from the same place? They may have been right before but without proof or any way to prove what they say is true before the rumor becomes irrelevant, I'm taking this with a grain of salt.

Surely you must mean second coming of E3 2014? I mean, most people would agree that's the one that was amazing, I think 2013 was pretty good but nothing special or anything.

About the leak, I'm sad to say it does look pretty legit. I say sad not because it doesn't look good, but just because I don't like having this sort of thing spoiled. That said I'm sure I can forget about the couple of minutes I spent skimming through it over the course of the next 4 months. Also I do find it hard to believe someone could leak Nintendo's entire E3 presentation 4 months in advance, I mean, would they even have that stuff ready by now?

 

Nope, the first reveal of Smash 4, 3D World, DKCTF, Mario Kart 8, first good look at Pokemon X/Y, more on Pikmin 3, WWHD, XCX, Bayo2 with playable demos not just at E3 but in stores around the country. 2014 had playable Smash and the reveal of Zelda, Mario Maker, and the GOAT, but eh nothing else stood out to me.



RolStoppable said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:

All true, but I just don't want to expect all my favorite games at one event no matter how likely. Less disappointment if that doesn't happen, more excitement if it does.

Based on ARMS June counts as Spring, so Mario Tennis/Hyrule Warriors could release there and the other in April since Labo isn't a traditional game, that's what I assumed was gonna happen atleast. I'd think the July game would also be set, perhaps August aswell if the June game is already decided. If you believe the idea that Nintendo wants a game to coincide with the paid online then the September game might also be set. I wont say these points debunk the rumor by any means, but they're still strange to me.

I looked it up and both Mario Tennis and Hyrule Warriors have yet to be dated.

February - Bayonetta 2
March - Kirby
April - Labo Kit 1 and 2
May - Donkey Kong Country

But the Direct Mini made a cut-off for first party titles in May, so I assume that Mario Tennis and Hyrule Warriors will release before June. Hyrule Warriors is scheduled for March in Japan, but based on precedence of the Wii U game and Fire Emblem Warriors, I expect the Definitive Edition to release roughly one month later, so in April in America and Europe. Mario Tennis is also a likely candidate for April because it makes the most sense; people who scoff at Labo might be interested in Mario Tennis as a more conventional Nintendo game and the other months mentioned above already have such a Nintendo title. I suppose Mario Tennis could also slip into early June and Yoshi moves to July. Perhaps Nintendo's strategy includes the option to push back releases a little bit, depending on how necessary they deem the timing to maintain Switch momentum.

I'd actually expect SSB to land about a month in advance of paid online to maximize its effect, i.e. allow everyone to play it free for a month and get them hooked, then they'll be more ready to buckle up and pay for the subscription.

That could work too, with Hyrule Warriors releasing alongside Kirby in Japan they're not against 2 games in one month, probably as long as one is a port. I think it's safe to assume Yoshi is just floating and can be placed wherever Nintendo sees fit. Yoshi was playable at E3 last year, so for a game like that surely it's pretty much done by now.

That's evil, but so is paid online in general so I could see that.



Sorry for triple post but this is worth! A Reddit user found out that the E3 leaker is not the same guy who leaked the January event, just some imposter trying to take advantage of the real leaker's credibility.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/7uwxcy/psa_the_e3_leak_is_fake/



Lonely_Dolphin said:
Sorry for triple post but this is worth! A Reddit user found out that the E3 leaker is not the same guy who leaked the January event, just some imposter trying to take advantage of the real leaker's credibility.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/7uwxcy/psa_the_e3_leak_is_fake/

Yep, I don't believe the leak. I think some things will go true, but that's pretty much obvious just by the fact that they listed so many games.

 

Also, Nintendo would never have an E3 that good