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teamsilent13 said:

If our founders wanted a straight majority they wouldn't have spent the time making the electoral college. It's actually exactly in place for the exact reason he won. A few huge cities shouldn't determine the fate of the country on their whim.

The electoral college exists to protect the country from the potential of a tyrannical ruler who doesn't represent the interests of the country. Basically, it puts the final say into the hands of the electoral college instead of the people so “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” In practice, this means essentially nothing because the EC votes firmly alongside the voters. 

I've never understood the argument that "a few huge cities shouldn't determine the fate of the country". I'm not sure why the vote of someone who lives in a city shouldn't count as much as someone who lives in the country.  Further, that is largely the same position we are in now. There are only really a few states that actually matter. The majority of votes are meaningless because they exist in entrenched states and a vote against the majority in those states means nothing. What good is a vote for Trump in California? 

A change to popular voting would mean that every vote matters, not just votes in a few swing states.

But I suppose this isn't really on topic. 



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Bernie Sanders called CNN "fake news"(jokingly) but they cut him off:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcck5CVSkW0



Proud to be a Californian.

irstupid said:

1. I don't watch CNN, so don't know names.  Hell I don't know any newsperson's name. I figure as soon as you know someone's name they are too famous and thus can hardly be trusted. But it was some black guy who speaks during their normal main hours. Someone who speaks on tv about Trump. A newscaster, not some CNN health guy. So say what you want about the relevance of a random CNN health guys opinion about Trump, but this guys opinion is what we see on TV.

2. All I saw was some video that said 2 of them were. If it was wrong, then so be it. Point is, my pulitzer prize winners knowledge goes as deep as Lois Lane. I'm under the impression that this is a prestigous award that should be given to only those that are of great skill and ethics. For one to resign (resign in this situation is the same as firing. It's like Nixon stepping down.) starts to give that award less meaning. It's like Obama winning the peace price before he even stepped into office, or was it like a month in. Either way, it demeans the accomplishment/award.

3. My argument is nothing about fake news. It's about CNN jumping hte gun and publishing click bait articles to get raitings. No apoligy or retraction can fix that. This is not some youtuber. This is supposed to be a national news station that is held to a higher degree. People of the highest caliber of education and skill shoudl be working here and trying to let the rest of the united stated or even world know of the news. Not some propoganda bullshit and hit peice or ratings grab. Whether its an error or fake news, neither shoudl happen. They need to do their homeworkd better. YOu don't write an article accusing the president of the united states of treason unless you have concrete proof. (yes this wasn't about trump directly, but indirectly. And as someone said, the top 7 stories on CNN today were about 1 trump tweet today. That is not the type of calliber I woudl excpect from a national news station. Anchorman 2 summed up our news stations perfectly.

Really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. 

1) You're not involved with CNN, but somehow you made it to page 20+ of this thread without knowing the name of some black guy that's actually more               important, trust me. 
    Now, I'll say this plainly: thinking that the entire Russia enquiry is made up because some people at CNN don't personally believe in it, is fucking moronic,         and you need ZERO knowledge of CNN to arrive at this conclusion. Obviously you could have Googled it, but clearly you're not a fan of research.

2) Again, you admit willful ignorance to try and shield yourself from some mightily poor reasoning.
    My point was that criticising CNN for the handling of the Scaramucci story is clearly in an effort to undermine something that makes the president scream         at the telly.
    Your point was that it was handled wrong, but you provided no reason why. Again, had CNN just kept the article up, we would be having no such                         conversation. But now you want to claim that it's worse, because you think that the Pulitzer prize is somehow a certificate saying "can't do no wrong",               rather than an acknoledgement of a distinguished example in a particular category. How do I know this? Google.

3) You essentially launch in a ramble about how a channel you don't watch makes you very angry because it overreports on an issue you don't like.
    How you'd know without watching it, I sure don't know. 
    I'd argue, that the President of the U.S.A. acting like a deranged lunatic to the cast of a morning show, while not as consequential as some of his other               actions, sure as fuck is worth reporting. I'm sorry you don't hold your leaders to any standard, but be sure to criticize a channel you don't watch for                     covering something too much. You must have been super pissed at Hillary's e-mails occupying the election coverage, I'm sure.
    I'm also sad to report CNN top stories are generated by traffic, so maybe read it if you want to influence those. But right, reading...

I can say that your criticism of a chnnel you don't watch on an issue you don't know about regarding a topic you don't understand has been illuminating on how to approach this thread. 

P.S. If you want unfettered coverage of how Trump is the best little boy in the whole world, I'd recommend Fox News, or stuffing crayons up your nose.



darkenergy said:

Bernie Sanders called CNN "fake news"(jokingly) but they cut him off:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcck5CVSkW0

That's a pretty shitty cut off, if they are going to have him on in a few minutes, but I'm sure they have a vendetta against Bernie.

They all do... Everyone is conspiring against Bernie... But they'll see... (laughs maniacally at Bernie 2020 poster)

I like the newest video, impartial CNN editor thinks that voters are "stupid as shit" for not agreeing with him. His reasons are obscure - Trump is not really against gay marriage, but only pretending...? Mmkay who would have known?

https://youtu.be/4dRGMME4VnM





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Azuren said:
Nem said:

 

This image illustrates perfectly the point of my previous post. One side throws suspicion and the Trump supporters throw out factually false statements. What you are doing here is outright sad Gourmet.

Actually, your argument illustrates perfectly what's wrong with politics and political discussion in America as a whole . One sides shifts blame; the other side deflects to a different topic and places blame; the now blamed side deflects as well. Repeat ad nauseum and congratulations, you're a political puppet.

 

Maybe instead of only worrying about what the lesser of two evils are, maybe make an effort to stop picking evil people. It all starts with us. We can make Bernie2020 happen.

The only problem with that is that i'm not an american, as i said before (thank god for that as i would be very stressed if i was).

But, i do support your optimism for future options. Bernie does look like a good guy, and a legitimate one. Not a con artist like Trump. But, i do think it's worth pointing out when people are outright lying. Facts and non-facts are a very important thing to distinguish. If you let them just make anything up they will always have a spin for everything but simply making stuff up. It is absolutely ridiculous. 



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iron_megalith said:

I've overused this example already.


But this is still MAINSTREAM NEWS IN A NUTSHELL.

So again. Can anyone tell me again with a straight face that the media isn't lying? And that they don't push agendas and twist facts for their own benefits?

Oh and some of the comments here are textbook extremists. Don't care that this shit is already being blown out and that FAKE NEWS actually exists just because you want the hate on Trump to grow? Moreso some people here openly post that they want people dead. Oh the hilarity. VGC community touching politics is a real fanfare of clowns.

StarOcean said:

I ain't left. For fucks sake. Kill Hillary in cold blood, I'd be happy then too. Anyone who follows a political party in this country just needs to be beaten to death as it is. Burn the Republicans and hang the Democrats. If it all means Trump is killed, that's all that matters

 

~Warned for this post -Ryuu96

I mean how does this shit get a warning meanwhile I get banned for just calling out someone for pushing SJW agendas on a topic that shouldn't involve politics.

In before I get banned again for criticizing the community. So be it. Omit this if you may mods. :)

Ryuu's in the house. No need to worry... 



Nem said:
iron_megalith said:

Everyone knew this at this point. It's just that the mainstream media doesn't want to acknowledge it.

Take Forbes for example.

Oh and Wolf Blitzer is a fucking joke. 1-2 hour segment expanding on another dumb Trump tweet. Just merge with TMZ already for all I care.

Are you so desensetised that you think theres nothing wrong with his tweet?

Why don't you try saying what he did to a female forum member and see what happens?

The difference is, here we have someone ensuring a minimum of decency. In american politics, not even that.

Gourmet said:

 

This image illustrates perfectly the point of my previous post. One side throws suspicion and the Trump supporters throw out factually false statements. What you are doing here is outright sad Gourmet.                                     

There's a difference between being informative and being sensationalist.

 

That tweet didn't fucking need 2 hours to drive the same point over and over.

 

Please have some sense into you or are you biting all this drama and think it's a necessity in your life?

 

At this point, it wouldn't surprise me if you watch crappy reality tv drama like Maury or Jerry Springer. Trump said something petty, we know it. Move on.



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