... must be quite a burden to have one... 

 lol ... your just like my sister :P

Anyways , I agree on this one epsilon72 :) 

 You're an idiot. Really.

You state a fact - science has been wrong it the past. From this fact you somehow come to the conclusion that because science has been wrong it the past you can disregard it. Thats not science, in science you only disregard things if you have proof of something contradictory.

Then you somehow change the topic from transgender disorders to homosexuality,  they are entirely seperate and different things. Then on the topic of homosexuality you ignore scientific evidence because of anecdotal evidence of 'several friends', you know my uncle is gay and he and his husband are happily married, both have good employement as anglican vicars and they don't have any of the problems which you seem to associate with 'the homosexual movement'. 

I'm 99% sure that you find the idea of homosexuality morally wrong due to religion. Just like every other damned person who thinks homosexuality is 'abnormal'

Now if you would like to find some scientific studies, not funded by christian groups, that prove any of my statements wrong. Then we can debate. 

Uhm its psychiatric not really medical.  

I really don't care that much about what it feels like to them.  Similar to other psychatric illnesses such as bipolar disorder I don't try to understand the things they say as a result of their condition I just feel sorry for them and hope that they can find a way to restore their mental health. 

Its the same thing as people who claim they feel like they've always been a wolf or a giraffe.  The only difference is that in this case what they "feel" like they ought to be isn't quite as ridiculous to you as someone who feels like they should be a different species. 

 I don't find homosexuality morally objectionable.  But I do recognize that its abnormal.  The vast majority of people are straight, thats a fact.  And since I'm an athiest I think I disproved your point about everyone who thinks its abnormal does so on religious grounds.

I don't understand why this person would become pregnant if "he's" trying to be male. Only females can become pregnant...does that not confuse the person? Because it definitely confuses me...you can't be a man and give birth...you might as well grow your boobs back and call yourself a woman again.

It's not a "desire" to have a baby that's feminine, though maybe so, but it's a necessity. You ARE female if you have a baby...this is stupid.

Yeah, this is the bit that confuses me as well. The desire to reproduce is over both genders but surely the desire to become pregnant is purely a female one?

@Sqrl. Psychiatry is a medical field. Also transgender disorders are far more common than people thinking they are animals. Also people who think they are not human, I think, generally have mental illnesses which their beliefs are symptoms of rather than a direct disorder.

Also the best way for transgender people to restore their mental health is to actually give them the body to match their mind.

To your second post, that was directed at people who find it wrong. I put 'abnormal' down with the quotation marks to show that. Suppose I should have made it more obvious, it was very ambiguous.  

My point was that its classified as a mental problem. As in there isn't a medical reason for it so they are, to be blunt, "crazy". Its all in the head, and as any psychiatrist will tell you those who are extremely mentally ill thoroughly believe what they are thinking is valid and in most cases believe that there is nothing wrong with them. Sorry but unless there was a genetic mistake its just a mental disorder as far as I'm concerned, its calous sure but I'm really not the type to beat around the bush so that others feel warm and fuzzy about themselves.

As for which is more common it doesn't really make a difference but if you're correct(seems logical enough) and those who believe they should have been an animal are more rare then I would say that makes sense since it is probably just a more severe form of the same thing...and generally higher severities are less common.

Well I honestly can't find any info on people who don't believe they are humans (it must be really a very rare condition) so I can't really comment on its cause.

Also its not actually established that is a mental problem rather than physical or biological, I actually was wrong in saying it was a mental thing. Sorry about that.

In any case, even if you do believe that these people have a mental illness it makes no difference to what was originally being debated which is basically whether it is morally right for a person who has the body of one gender and gender identity of another to get a sex change. 

really weird