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Horizon and uncharted feel like 9th gen games...

Yes, absolutely. 280 39.60%
 
Kinda but not that much. 123 17.40%
 
Nah, 8th gen. 212 29.99%
 
I haven't played either of them... 92 13.01%
 
Total:707
Nogamez said:
Lawlight said:

How do you want a cover shooter to play like?

I don't really care how a cover Shooter plays like because I've been playing cover based shooters since at least 2006 man  so bored of them, just like I'm totally done with FPS, overdone and boring, but I've been gaming since atleast 1995.  

Yeah, because open world games with terrible combat mechanics have not been done to death...



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Well, I'm probably too old. I learned a long time ago, that graphically impressive games aren't the one I remember five years from now, if they aren't bringing something else. I'm sure Horizon delivers on that front, though. But this graphic will look old in some years, The classics are the games that are fun even with graphic that is outdated.



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Pagan said:

Horizon was like a beautiful sexy woman you see on the street. You start to fantasize how sex with her might be. But then it turns out that she is only a virgin who has no idea of ​​sex. But hey. She looked good.

Actually that comparison does not hold. On every review it is told gameplay and exploration are great. Gameplay-videos show the same. Horizon is one game I get for sure, when I get my PS4. And I give not too much on graphics, because when I get it, it will be multiple years old. I think at the moment Horizon will still be fun to pplay a few years from now.

There are other games mostly defined by looks. And these don't hold up well over time.



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Qwark said:

So beautiful.

i vote for "Yes, absolutely"! And the next great games with beautiful (reference-)graphic are coming: God of War, The Last of Us 2 and Death Stranding : )



Lawlight said:
Nogamez said:

I don't really care how a cover Shooter plays like because I've been playing cover based shooters since at least 2006 man  so bored of them, just like I'm totally done with FPS, overdone and boring, but I've been gaming since atleast 1995.  

Yeah, because open world games with terrible combat mechanics have not been done to death...

Yeah I know that's why I haven't played Horizon yet pretty sure it will feel like every other Open world game I've played recently IE SoM, ACS etc. Boring.

They all look great but have boring gameplay. If you don't agree that's fine but for me UC4 plays like a gen 7 game, nothing "next gen" about it at all except graphics.

 

BotW looks pretty shit but for me gameplay was fun. 

If Horizon has good gameplay then I'm in for a treat



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Hiku said:

Don't worry. There are other kinds of beautiful graphics that are not so much limited by technology, but creativity.

That art style surely profits from more hardware power though. With such clean lines you want the highest possible resolution and/or AA. All those jaggies make a sad picture.



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Hiku said:
vivster said:

That art style surely profits from more hardware power though. With such clean lines you want the highest possible resolution and/or AA. All those jaggies make a sad picture.

True Gif gaming.

It's a monster.

I don't have the game but I'm sure I'd be annoyed by the jaggies in a 1080p game on my 65" screen. Looking at the art style Persona 5 is highly dependant on high resolutions. A lot moreso than realistic art styles like HZD.



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I've seen similar threads on the past about "game x" spoiling people but I've never felt that way. Not even back in the days of Donkey Kong Country where I thought games wouldn't ever look better. That's kinda what gaming does. It raises the bar then raises it again. Next year this time, the bar will be even higher--probably because of Uncharted LL.

Look at movies. Just when you think effects can't getter any better, they do. Then, when you look back at the older stuff, you notice the flaws. Personally, I own both games in the OP (and a PS4 Pro, no less!) and I still feel like graphical achievements are getting less and less noticable. That's why I was so crazy over PSVR. It felt like a revolution to me.



Generations aren't defined by graphical leaps. They're defined by successive hardware releases. The gameplay of those games, in my opinion, feel like refined 6th generation games. The graphics are amazing though.



Hiku said:
vivster said:

I don't have the game but I'm sure I'd be annoyed by the jaggies in a 1080p game on my 65" screen. Looking at the art style Persona 5 is highly dependant on high resolutions. A lot moreso than realistic art styles like HZD.

Well I play on a 42" so I haven't noticed anything that stands out in that regard. But in Digital Foundry's PS3 vs PS4 tech analysis, they didn't mention anything about that either.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHlOJlQhsU

They also say that the PS3 version holds up about just as well as the PS4 version, (aside from lower resolution and framerate issues) and stands out as one of the best looking rpgs on PS3 by far. So I'm not sure how reliant Persona 5 is on the advancement of technology.

I think the high quality textures in Horizon are more reliant on this because the aim is to create something closer to photorealism, wheres the aim with Persona 5's artstyle could possibly be achieved even on PS2.

Aliasing isn't as problematic in highly realistic games because the aliasing hides in visually busy images. It's only visble in high contrast scenarios.

Persona 5 is basically the definition of high contrast, so high resolution would serve it very well. For example it's clearly visible in the 1080p version of the youtube video. Some of it may  be from compression but by logic alone those jaggies will be visible on a big screen.

I'm not trying to talk down Persona's visuals, I'm just saying that even highly stylized games such as it will benefit visibly from stronger hardware. The game in true 4k would probably be marvelous to look at.



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