| Vasto said: PC world trys to build a PC that can compare to Xbox One X for $500 and they can not do it. |
You can't buy the Xbox One X yet. So you can't do that either.
| Vasto said: Forza 7 runs at native 4K / 60 FPS but the cheapest build they do is a $652 4k / 30 FPS machine and I highly doubt it will do 4K / 30. |
The Xbox One X isn't powerful enough to be a true 4k/30 machine.
| Vasto said: They even use one of those websites like CD Keys to buy a Windows Key! |
They are legal.
| Vasto said: Where is the keyboard and mouse? |
$5.
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You can make cutbacks to that build.
You can go second hand/swap meet/auction and get a Sandy Bridge Quad-Core CPU, Motherboard and Ram for $100 or less that will game just fine.
You can get a EVGA 400w PSU, Toshiba 1TB HDD, Geforce 1060, ditch the Blu-Ray Drive (It's a PC not a console!), get a cheaper case and save another $100.
Scorpio is Mid-Range/Low-end in terms of performance.
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Also. You need to look at the long term costs. PC Games are cheaper. You don't have to pay for online. That PC could have saved you hundreds.
My PC predates this console generation (Main components are 2011). And it's superior to Scorpio in every single way. And that isn't even out yet.
| shikamaru317 said: Eh, the same specs maybe, but not better. A budget AM4 motherboard, a Ryzen 5 CPU, 8 GB of DDR4, and an RX 580 are going to run you about $500, maybe even over $500 until RX 580 availability improves, and that'll only match Xbox One X GPU wise, it won't surpass it. A Ryzen CPU is a big improvement over XOX's Jaguar, but PC's have more CPU overhead, so it's not as big of a difference as you might expect. You could go a bit cheaper by doing an Intel i3 build instead of an AMD Ryzen build, but an i3 may bottleneck an RX 580 on certain games, especially at 4K. |
You can go better.
PC CPU/Motherboard/Ram combos released last console generation can be faster than what Scorpio is offering today. Just drop in a couple of Radeon 470's/570's and you obliterate whatever Scorpio offers.
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You could pull it back and go with the FX 6300. Heck even The Quad 4700.
At 4k you are going to be GPU bound.
| ironmanDX said: People aren't reading it properly. This isn't a direct match. It's just a 4k pc as cheap as possible. There's no cooling system and only 8gb of gddr4. Hell, the motherboard is as cheap as they come. It doesn't even support wifi... In 2017. They've essentially cheated on this comparison and still come up short. |
That board isn't as cheap as it comes. This one is $40 after a rebate.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130922
Motherboards tend not to come with Wifi. Buy a USB dongle for a couple bucks.
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The cooling system coimes with the CPU.
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It is using DDR3. Not DDR4. Not GDDR4. And it really doesn't make a difference for system memory.
There is a reason why System Memory doesn't push GDDR5 memory for System memory. And it's not to do with cost either.
| SmileyAja said: The GPU is basically an RX 580, which the 1060 beats in most instances, most often not by much though. |
The 1060 overclocks like a champ though. The RX 580? Not so much. The RX 580 really is mid-range junk. It's not going to be doing proper 4k, which speaks testament to the Xbox One X's future 4k prospects as well.
| Captain_Yuri said: APUs are mainly an AMD thing because most AMD cpus do not have GPUs inside however the AMD CPUs that do have GPUs inside are stronger than the usual GPUs that are known to be inside CPUs and that is why AMD calls them APUs. Intel does not actually call their cpus APUs even if they have GPUs inside them hence why post people do not actually call intel cpus, APUs even though intel i7s have GPUs inside them... |
APU's is an AMD marketing term which essentially means a CPU with a GPU integrated onto the same chip.
Thus Intel does technically have "APU's".
| Goddbless said: Maybe because some people will actually be using the XBOX to watch 4k blurays so they want to add all functionality. |
A PC is not a console. They typically aren't connected to a Home Theatre.
I mean, if you want equal functionality, you might as well drop the Xbox off a cliff as it cannot run a spreadsheet.

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