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The biggest problem for the switch is ...?

Focus on PlayStation 4 and/or xbox in future 16 7.37%
 
The switch-hardware, not strong enough 51 23.50%
 
The weak interest of other developers 34 15.67%
 
No trust in 3rd party support 28 12.90%
 
It changes-with stronger ... 4 1.84%
 
I think .. (other opinion) 11 5.07%
 
Many reasons from the list !! 26 11.98%
 
See results 47 21.66%
 
Total:217

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KazumaKiryu said:

Your first comment has nothing to do with the topic. And you know it too :) You changed the subject and talked about "exclusive references". If you see the situation differently, its not a problem - but that does not explain the change of topics. Would be nice if it goes continue normally :) @RolStoppable

Your OP asks for analysis on the Switch situation and Rol offered some analysis of that situation specifically by highlighting the performance of Switch in Japan, Japanese 3rd parties starting to give the machine some attention and the eventual movement of 3DS development to Switch. The opinion that certain games don't matter while Switch still gets games that excel in specific genres is just another opinion which you ask for in your OP.

I'd also advise against the insults just because you disagree with his opinion.



                            

Namiirei said:
Problem N°1 : The switch hardware, way too weak for most of multi-games.

Problem N°2 : Sales.
On nintendo home-consoles, only Nintendo licences sell well, all the rest flop horribly once the bigs guns are here (Mario, mario kart, splatoon, zelda,animal crossing, etc).
A7XRayDog247 said:
Well I think a lot of developers got burned by trying to put their games on the WiiU, and with the lack of sales there Nintendo needs to do a lot to gain back their trust. Which is why I think you have the likes of EA and Bethesda putting out only one or two games to "test the waters" essentially.

Sales Figures.. could be a reason. But I do not know how good or bad are selling multi-games on Nintendo consoles, any example's? I personally only inform myself about sales numbers about my favorite games.

RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

I see.  So that's all it takes to make a definitive proclamation for "the best"?  I'll have to remember that.

The game obviously has to look great as well, which it does. Same reason why I declared Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Odyssey to be the best. Although with those two games nobody had an issue with my claims.

And if Persona 5 (93%) is better ..? Is that bad or is the world then destroyed? Apart from that, Persona 5 has one of the best stories of all time in the video game area. And it is 3rd part, by Atlus. But .... exactly, right! What does all this matter mean? Is this a "Game vs. Game" -Thread? Create your own thread if you're interested - which is the reference for this year. Nobody wants to talk about "which games are better", only you - in the wrong topic.

PS: This is the topic? @C18

"The best open world game of the year: Breath of the Wild. Not available on PS4 and XB1.
The best fun-racer of the year: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Not available on PS4 and XB1.
The best third person shooter of the year: Splatoon 2. Not available on PS4 and XB1.
The best 3D platformer of the year: Super Mario Odyssey. Not available on PS4 and XB1.
The best JRPG of the year: Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Not available on PS4 and XB1
."

No. The second half of his first comment yes, not the first half. And after that.. all his comments: "game vs game", "exclusives" and other stuff. Who is interested in which games are the best in the year? Who is interested in which games - he sees as references? As I said, his opinion and so - ok. But if you read his comments here,you see -something is wrong. (Overall, we are all winners - because every videogames-player has fantasy and fun :) )@Carl2291.

Let's see, if "Beyond Good and Evil 2" coming. it would be good for the switch. The trailer was really cool.



Nintendo's biggest issue is the business side. It begins and ends with business. Even if Switch were as powerful as XBOX One X, until they can show third-party developers that their business models have become more friendly towards them, the games are not going to show up.

However, they seem to have no issue with their handheld business and that is the strength of both Switch and third-party relations as far as Switch is concerned. The future for Switch actually looks decent since the games Switch does get - a large percentage anyway - are exclusive and like 3DS, that will give gamers enough of a reason to own one alongside their PS4/XBOX One/PC.



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fedfed said:
They are not on Switch because it is Nintendo... there is pressure from Sony and MS.

But maybe Ms relationship will now work this way... everything on MS will be downloadable to Switch

Yes that's why they are not on the Switch even though Sony and Microsoft consistently praise Nintendo and they have no leverage to stop third parties from porting games to other platforms and if they did they would rather it not be on their direct competition which is Microsoft and Sony rather than Nintendo.



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RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

I see.  So that's all it takes to make a definitive proclamation for "the best"?  I'll have to remember that.

The game obviously has to look great as well, which it does. Same reason why I declared Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Odyssey to be the best. Although with those two games nobody had an issue with my claims.

I don't play platformers, I don't play online shooters.  I don't know or care about those games or whatever competition they have.  

I don't care about "best" status, especially since your main criteria seems to be Metacritic, but I do know that I prefer Gran Turismo/Forza type games over arcade-type and luck-based racing games.  

I do like RPGs, however.



RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

I have absolutely no idea about Kazuma's posting history.  You have a problem with his posts, feel free to disagree with him.  And, yes, I am aware that you're trying to deflect the discussion away from you and your "best game of the year" proclamations and your criteria for those announcements.

Back to your "confidence".  What is it based on?  Actually, let me repeat some of my questions that you missed:

"What are your criteria?  Have you PLAYED Xenoblade Chronicles 2?  Have you played Persona 5?  Have you played Ni No Kuni 2?  Have you played NieR: Automata?

What, exactly, is your basis for saying that XC2 is better than those games?"

In other words, why are you confident that XC2 is better than those games?

I've already told you that the first Xenoblade Chronicles has a Metascore of 92. It's not a big leap from there for it to score better than all the other games you mentioned.

Persona 5 has 93 on metacritic.

Nier Automata has 88.

Ni No Kuni has 85.

Xenoblade Chronicles X has 84.

Splatoon has 81.

Your point was?



RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

I don't play platformers, I don't play online shooters.  I don't know or care about those games or whatever competition they have.  

I don't care about "best" status, especially since your main criteria seems to be Metacritic, but I do know that I prefer Gran Turismo/Forza type games over arcade-type and luck-based racing games.  

I do like RPGs, however.

If you like RPGs, then you should have been aware of the pedigree of Xenoblade Chronicles. In your initial post you belittled me, strongly implying that I am way too biased and have no idea what I am talking about, even though the subject was a sequel to a game that received a metascore of 92.

The person who suffers from too much prejudice is you. Or how else would you explain your lack of knowledge despite liking RPGs?

Ah, you're trying to change the argument now?  

The point, as you well know, was you declaring an unreleased game to be "the best".  On top of that, your entire basis seems to be Metacritic.

Unless you're saying now that you did play all those games I mentioned so that you can form your own opinion about "the best" RPG?



Carl2291 said:
KazumaKiryu said:

Your first comment has nothing to do with the topic. And you know it too :) You changed the subject and talked about "exclusive references". If you see the situation differently, its not a problem - but that does not explain the change of topics. Would be nice if it goes continue normally :) @RolStoppable

I'd also advise against the insults just because you disagree with his opinion.

My view is above.

GOWTLOZ said:
RolStoppable said:

I've already told you that the first Xenoblade Chronicles has a Metascore of 92. It's not a big leap from there for it to score better than all the other games you mentioned.

Persona 5 has 93 on metacritic.

Nier Automata has 88.

Ni No Kuni has 85.

Xenoblade Chronicles X has 84.

Splatoon has 81.

Your point was?

Good question, he play only on nintendo-hardware's (he himself said it. its ok for me, but..), so.. he just wanted to bring Nintendo exclusives-Games into the "Multi-Games/3rd party"-topic xD

RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

I don't play platformers, I don't play online shooters.  I don't know or care about those games or whatever competition they have.  

I don't care about "best" status, especially since your main criteria seems to be Metacritic, but I do know that I prefer Gran Turismo/Forza type games over arcade-type and luck-based racing games.  

I do like RPGs, however.

Or how else would you explain your lack of knowledge despite liking RPGs?

"I'd also advise against the insults just because you disagree with his opinion." OK. ps. my best friend and i play all important jrpgs, because he has all consoles :) And really.. XCX has a ugly character design and a mediocre story. The world is big, yes. the beginning was good. but the game lacks beautiful things (good story, awesome characters and dialogues). Persona 5 is better in all things. But who cares? JRPG-War here?



RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

I don't play platformers, I don't play online shooters.  I don't know or care about those games or whatever competition they have.  

I don't care about "best" status, especially since your main criteria seems to be Metacritic, but I do know that I prefer Gran Turismo/Forza type games over arcade-type and luck-based racing games.  

I do like RPGs, however.

If you like RPGs, then you should have been aware of the pedigree of Xenoblade Chronicles. In your initial post you belittled me, strongly implying that I am way too biased and have no idea what I am talking about, even though the subject was a sequel to a game that received a metascore of 92.

The person who suffers from too much prejudice is you. Or how else would you explain your lack of knowledge despite liking RPGs?

XC 2 is a sequel to a game with 84 on metacritice. Persona 5, Nier Automata and Ni no kuni all have higher metascores. Also higher than Splatoon by the way. Its far from being the best RPG around even if all you go with is metacritic scores.