| JRPGfan said: Lets see: |
This was from June 2017..... Still I think I did pretty well here.
Heck I probably even underestimated it abit, Shipped is probably already over 94m.
JRPGfan said:
This was from June 2017..... Still I think I did pretty well here. |
You did well my boy, Your I think preface,when compared to the never / won't happen comments, reminds me of the Bertrand Russell quote " The trouble with the world is stupid people are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt. "
Research shows Video games help make you smarter, so why am I an idiot
| Teriol said: With ps5 rigth at the corner, probably never. |
Well we're around that corner now and still no ps5 lol.
Teriol said:
Don't be so sure about it, Scorpio and NS are going to make sony to rush the ps5. |
NS not stopping the ps4 but at least it's doing well. But all the hype around the scorpio and the xbox is at what 41m in 2019? It won't be past 50m by the time next gen consoles start shipping. Scorpio did absolutely nothing to the ps4. If anything they should have went with a cheaper pro like machine. Games aren't even taking advantage of the full scorpio power. Wasted extra costs imo.
xl-klaudkil said:
Sony beat Microsoft and Nintendo soo hard they had to make a new console to try and match it. Nintendo will sell a lot of switches,Microsoft will fail.
Big lol 2019 i predict |
Great Post. You predicted the xbox won't be a success, the switch will an the 100m mark by 2019. Bravo.
| rodea_sky_soldier said: Ps4 need to sell at least 40 million. PS5 is on the corner. Even PS4 lasting to 2019, 40 million in 2 years? I think not. |
Lol this thread is gold.
| Dulfite said: LOL. The PS4 won't outsell the Wii nor will it even come close to doing it. I predict it will be at least 20 mil less than wii by the end of its life. |
Jesus christ.
| Teriol said: People who believe the PR talk from sony about the NS not been a direct competitor and all that crap needs to stop and think, rigth now the NS is the sales leader and will be for a long time, and XBOX Scorpio is coming it will eat a lot of ps4 sales, we are on a sells site, it's a given new platforms are competing because they are video games machines, one is an all in one with portability no other has, and the other is atacking the PS4 on their terrain "power" so don't buy the PR talk from sony, both new consoles are eating rigth now ps4 sells, this is going to make sony to rush the ps5 and ps4 are not going to pass the wii on that conditions. "a children wants an NS and a PS4 for christmas so he begs his father to get both, but his father does not have infinite income so he tells his son to choose one, the NS is gonna win that match because is the new trend, a popular trend", there you have, is one ps4 less for sony and one plus NS for Nintendo. |
Well looks like not too many poor kids are begging their poor fathers for a ps4 and a Switch. These kids may be poor but at least their judgment is better then a few around here xD
| Azzanation said: It wont if they plan a PS5 in a couple of years. But like most Sony consoles, they will keep selling the machines for 10 years and claim how good there consoles sell. PS4 will outsell Wii if PS5 doesn't come until 2021. However that's a long time to let MS sell Scorpio as the most powerful console. |
Absolutely vgchartz gold. Never seen anyone take that angle before in order to avoid praising the ps4. So Sony just sell their playstations forever and that's not really impressive then?! I guess having the top selling console the last 8 years in a row isn't impressive either?
8 give you A for effort but your second part ruined it. Looks like ps5 will probably come before 2021 but regardless it outsells Wii in 2019 pre holiday season. What a beast beating even your metrics for success. Oh and I don't think they're too worried about the scorpio. 41m.
| Pyro as Bill said: If PS4's competition was selling 85m consoles each like Wii's then it would never do it. As things stand, PS4 has had an easy ride and should manage it by 2020. |
xD Azazination gets the gold medal but you get the silver! Yeah ps4 had it easy. Even though the switch was meant to cannibalise it's last few years and that never happened. Still though it's had it easy. I guess when you are the top dog you don't have to face the top dog so you might have a point.
| Kerotan said: My January 2020 prediction is not looking good. At this rate it will be 2019. |
I was ashamed of my January 2020 prediction but glad I saved it with this revised post not long after in 2017. Hard to be positive when so many are cock sure with their negative outlook.
| Shadow1980 said: I meant to reply to this last week, but I started having internet issues when I tried doing so and never got back around to it. In any case, I honestly don't think it's a given that the PS4 will pass the Wii, and if it does it'll be damn close. Earlier in the gen I figured 120M would be an easy target for the PS4, but now I'm not so sure, and I think it'll sell a bit less than that, with 110M being as high as I'm willing to go.
So, I don't expect the PS4 to pass the Wii at least until after the PS5 is announced. And of course, these estimates are contingent on when said announcement . |
Hey shadow i edited your post because it was so long but just want to say I'd wish you'd stop underestimating the ps4. It's been a trend with you all this gen. I respect you and love your work but it's very frustrating reading your posts over the years because i know you are genuine and not trolling. Hopefully those days are past and you won't underestimate the ps4 or the ps5 no more. I'm sure you seen the effect of the ps4 temporary promo to $230 in South Korea and Taiwan. I think that just shows how much the ps4 would sell over the next few years if Sony cut it WW to $199 permanently ps5 on the market or not.
zogs88 said:
course blu ray was a success, i think xbox one can surpass ps4 cause it has a 4k bluray drive |
This is legit platinum status. So xbox was going to pass the ps4 because it could play 4k movies. Even if ps5 has the 4k movie drive which I think it will, it will still be a rather niche market.
| Cobretti2 said: This i why I am not sure rather than just say it without explaining.. PS3 was hell expensive at launch it sales started slow. Pretty much my friends and me started buying it 12months or more after launch. PS4 launched at a much better price we all got it within the first 12months of launch. Now i am sure the same can be said for others. PS4 is very very front loaded with sales. This is why I am not sure if it will slow down or if there is growth to be had. Don't forget at one stage Wii looked like it was going to hit 120+ million. Will XBOX ONE X have an impact on sales? who know till t is out, but probably a case of too little too late. Now some will argue that since XBOX ON selling bad th gen that their must be growth for the PS4. Last gen because f the PS3 price a lot of people were forced to buy the xbox 360 first to play the latest games. Last gen there would have been many multi console owners. This gen hour Microsoft cocked up o much with their DRM announcements that it turned people away from owning multi console. I do however think it will cross the 100million but not 100% sure because Sony will leave it out on shelves long enough for it to happen at a reduced price for at least 2 years after PS5 has launched. So it may trickle over the line. |
This thread just keeps on giving. The ps4 is very front loaded sales wise? Jesus H Christ.
| fedfed said: All my friends have used PS1 as cd player more than video game console and PS2 as dvd player more than game console... to not consider how cheap and easy it was to hack it and play pirate games... same for GB and DS. |
Ps4 just a Netflix streaming machine confirmed.
| TalonMan said: When I first saw this thread, I honestly LAUGHED!!! The idea of the PS4 even coming close to Wii sales numbers, sounded ludicrous! |
Extremely relieved to read this highly intelligent post. I was starting to lose faith in the world.
Dulfite said:
Just to be clear, I think Sony is going to have a small E3 this year and will have less and less games going forward because they want the PS5 to hit the ground running when it launches, just like the ps4. Could the ps4 go on to sell more than the Wii? Absolutely! But only if they hold off the ps5 (and software production moving to the ps5) for a couple more years. If the PS5 launches anytime in 2019 or the first half of 2020, I think the ps4 won't sell more than the Wii. My 20 million short prediction, however, may be wrong as you stated. Also, nice necrobump ;) |
Jesus christ your last post was ridiculous and you had the chance to redeem yourself over a year later yet you doubled down. The fact this was after another year of extremely healthy ps4 sales just boggles my mind.
| Yerm said: its actually a bit amazing to think this a likely scenario now. i mean, i guess with their current trajectory, sometime in 2020 |
Make that 2019!
That was a hell of a ride folks. Had some laugh reading this tonight!
Kerotan said:
This thread just keeps on giving. The ps4 is very front loaded sales wise? Jesus H Christ. |
Absolutely. At the time it was when I posted. You can't argue Sony had a great launch with PS4 compared to PS3 and compared to it's competition the XBOX ONE.
Look at XBOX ONE sales. If Microsoft didn't fuck up their launch, they would have taken some of those early PS4 sales. Many Xbox fans switched to PS4s because of the BS Microsoft pulled at launch. A fair few have not even gone back now because what is the point? Also what has Microsoft really done to win back users this gen?
People were running over each other into stores at launch to grab a PS4. Whilst Xbox boxes were trampled on lol.
The thing that happened after the initial 3 years of launch window is that Sony kept the momentum going and have not made any major mistakes so its kept growing. If they sat on their ass like Nintendo did when the Wii was flying, it could have died down and lost momentum by now like the Wii did towards the end.
Hiku said:
Not that I hold anything against these predictions several years ago, but I guess the consensus is a lot sooner now. |
100% a lot sooner.
Microsoft have done nothing to try and correct their launch mistakes sooner. Looks like they banking on next gen to be great now.
Most would have assumed Microsoft would put up some kind of fight. If they did it probably be something like XONE - 55 million, PS4 - 82 million at this stage.
Probably in 2020, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it passing it at all......
Shadow1980 said:
I will admit that back in 2017 I was pretty bearish on the PS4. Not so much anymore. I was expecting larger declines in 2018 than what actually happened. I'm now assuming a final lifetime tally of about 120M for the PS4, with an approximate regional breakdown as follows: NA: 40M (37M U.S.) I think the PS4 ought to sell 13.5M to 15M this year, maybe 7-8M in 2020 (assuming a Nov. 2020 launch for the PS5), and sales dropping by half each year after that out to 2023. So, about 27-30M from 2019 to the end of the PS4's life, added to the now 91.6M lifetime tally. |
I don't think PS4 sales will reach 10 million in Japan, it barely sells anymore (less than 20k per week)
| tripenfall said: Probably in 2020, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it passing it at all...... |
Too easy question, Within Sept-Oct 2019. I'm ready to place a bet with everybody.
”Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”
Harriet Tubman.
PS4 is above 95m
Who said 2020?
Who said 2021?
Who said never?
God bless You.
My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+
When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019
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