At the end of 2019 shipped march 2020 sold.

Ah...so many memories. It feels like it was just last summer....I don't know what happened, but this thread had some of the highest levels of insanity I've ever seen in a thread. At least one that I waded into. Usually, if it looks like too many people have bees in their beard, I stay the f out of it. Subbed. Don't want to let this one slip away.

Certainly this would make Scorpio the most sold console, and MS would be able to claim this if they kept it for 10 or 50 years right?

Getting closer to it now! Should be at 80million SOLD in a couple of weeks which means it is already past 80million SHIPPED! This thread was interesting to go back and read through.....especially the PS4 will only do 80 million lifetime comment smh.....

Now it is only a matter of time as to when it out ships the Wii and see whose prediction was correct!

People loved being wrong about PS4 before the reveal.

Such waiting, much canibalism, very reality.

Well, I remember a thread that was "when will the ps4 beat 3ds" and people saying it would not. But this was just last year so I don't know which one is worse 

I remember that one too and the comments were the same......people saying never smh.......yet here we are lol.

Just to be clear, I think Sony is going to have a small E3 this year and will have less and less games going forward because they want the PS5 to hit the ground running when it launches, just like the ps4. Could the ps4 go on to sell more than the Wii? Absolutely! But only if they hold off the ps5 (and software production moving to the ps5) for a couple more years. If the PS5 launches anytime in 2019 or the first half of 2020, I think the ps4 won't sell more than the Wii. My 20 million short prediction, however, may be wrong as you stated.

Also, nice necrobump ;)

Do you even take into account any real world information when making these predictions? The PS5 could release November 2019 and the PS4 will have outsold the Wii in that same year. 92 million is like a safe estimate for what PS4 will sell by January 2019. That assumes the PS4 sold through 18.4 million in 2018. At that point it has less than 10 million to go to beat the Wii. Since PS3 sold 8 million in 2013, PS4 should be able to sell 10 million in 2019 (if it was the PS5 launch, which is unlikely anyway). 

Then what if PS5 launches November 2020 (which seems the most likely scenario)? That would give the PS4 another full year without next gen hype, meaning that 10 million it would have sold in 2019 PS5 launch year would instead be 14-15 million. Which would put PS4's sales at 106-107 million by the start of 2020. That's not taking into account the rest of 2020 PS4 has before the PS5 launch. Could be an 8-10 million selling year again, 115-117 million total.

Then.. what if Sony drop the PS4 price to $149 after PS5 launches? Or lower? It will go on to sell another 10 million or more before it's discontinued. PS4 has a much higher chance of selling post PS5 than what PS3 did. The reason being that it's actually selling to developing regions. It's already the 3rd best selling console of all time outside US/EU/JP with 14.1 million units sold. It's behind PSP (15.5 million) and PS2 (25.5 million). You haven't taken any of this into account, and thus your predictions have been crazy off.

The PS4 will outsell the Wii. It will outsell the PS1, the Gameboy and probably everything other than the DS and PS2. That's my prediction.