Slarvax said:
Pavolink said:
Let me tell you something. Part of the Switch success is about Nintendo merging both handheld and homeconsole libraries in a single piece of hardware.
After today, the Switch is getting a port of a Wii U game (homeconsole), but couldn't get even a lazy port of a mainline Pokemon game (handheld).
It is not a surprise that some are even speculating around the web or believing that they are going to create another handheld platform or if GF is really going to put at some time mainline games at it.
This of course gives no confidence to the general public or Pokemon fanbase, which is going to buy 3DS or keep their old ones to play the game and pass om the Switch, a new console that needs to grow its userbase as fast as it can to guarantee external support.
Now then, we may be more informed gamers, but out there this holiday season, people that wants to play Pokemon, which is a lot, won't buy a Switch because there's no game on it to play right now.
Tl;dr Yes it needs to grow the userbase faster. |
This is the overreaction I was looking for.
Let's look at the DS. It came out in 2004. Pokemon Emerald released a year later, for the GBA. The first Pokemon games on the DS were Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (2005 in Japan) and Pokemon Ranger, released in 2006. It didn't receive it's first mainline Pokemon until 2007 (Sept 2006 in Japan), around 3 years after the DS came out. That sure didn't harm the DS now, did it?
Personally, I wish US/UM wasn't even a thing. Neither Stars/Eclipse; I would like them to move out of Gen 7, take a year break and make an actually great Pokemon game. And that wouldn't harm the Switch in any way. They can't keep up with stock with "only 2 worthwhile games", imagine the holidays with Mario and Pokemon. It's a waste of resources for GF and Nintendo.
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First, how is this an overreaction and second DS was a handheld and everyone was 100% confident it would get a traditional pokemon game at some point.
Lastly, it had the GBA doing monster numbers. DS didn't need because there was another hardware selling pretty well while Switch only has the 3DS numbers that are slowing.
Add in there that DS wasn't selling as hot until 2006 with the DS Lite model.
wombat123 said:
Slarvax said:
This is the overreaction I was looking for.
Let's look at the DS. It came out in 2004. Pokemon Emerald released a year later, for the GBA. The first Pokemon games on the DS were Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (2005 in Japan) and Pokemon Ranger, released in 2006. It didn't receive it's first mainline Pokemon until 2007 (Sept 2006 in Japan), around 3 years after the DS came out. That sure didn't harm the DS now, did it?
Personally, I wish US/UM wasn't even a thing. Neither Stars/Eclipse; I would like them to move out of Gen 7, take a year break and make an actually great Pokemon game. And that wouldn't harm the Switch in any way. They can't keep up with stock with "only 2 worthwhile games", imagine the holidays with Mario and Pokemon. It's a waste of resources for GF and Nintendo.
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If Game Freak continues the trend they've established with the last two gens (two games and a year off), we won't see a mainline Pokemon on the Switch until 2019. If that's the case, Nintendo is going to need something big to carry the 2018 holidays.
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This. Are people sure Nintendo have enough games to sustain a good level of sales until 2019?
Miyamotoo said:
Pavolink said:
Let me tell you something. Part of the Switch success is about Nintendo merging both handheld and homeconsole libraries in a single piece of hardware.
After today, the Switch is getting a port of a Wii U game (homeconsole), but couldn't get even a lazy port of a mainline Pokemon game (handheld).
It is not a surprise that some are even speculating around the web or believing that they are going to create another handheld platform or if GF is really going to put at some time mainline games at it.
This of course gives no confidence to the general public or Pokemon fanbase, which is going to buy 3DS or keep their old ones to play the game and pass om the Switch, a new console that needs to grow its userbase as fast as it can to guarantee external support.
Now then, we may be more informed gamers, but out there this holiday season, people that wants to play Pokemon, which is a lot, won't buy a Switch because there's no game on it to play right now.
Tl;dr Yes it needs to grow the userbase faster. |
Point is that Switch will be very strong this year regardless Pokemon, and Nintendo could hardly have growth of the user base faster when still can't keep up with demand and next month we already getting new huge system seller game, Pokemon probably wouldn't help when in any case when Nintendo even now cant keep with demand.
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They can't keep up with the demand because of the surprise success. If it wasn't the case and the console was selling less, would the have been in need of a Pokemon game? It is not like this should be decided in a short frame of time. Whether Switch would get a port of UM US was a decision that Nintendo or GF took since last year.
And well, it is pretty interesting to see people asking for less games.
