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Locknuts said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

The last 2 terrorist attacks here have been from people born in the UK. Immigration didn't really have anything to do with it. 

Correct. Islam is the problem, not immigration.

In France, Germany and Sweden though, immigration is definitely part of the problem.

Ignorance is the problem. People who are ignorant are easily brainwashed by scum like Daesh I mean the leaders of Daesh will never take part on a suicide attack they want power and their own regime to be set up in the middle easy so they will use ignorant people around the world to carry out attacks. Ignorance of the true meaning of Islam and ignorance of who and what to see on the internet and who and what to believe will lead to these attacks. Daesh is like a drug to these people people who always had something wrong with them and then this terrorist organization makes them feel special and give them a 'purpose' a clearly deranged and disgustingly scummy purpose but a purpose nonetheless. If these people were properly trained in understanding their religion these attacks would never happen



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Qwark said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

A watch list for terrorism is sort of meaningless, seeing as you can't arrest someone until they've broken laws. 

The manchester bomber could've easily looked up how to make a nail bomb on tor, or at an internet cafe and the government are unaware. 

Also there's no real way of stopping people driving their car to go on the pavement and mow people over, unless you ban people from driving cars there isn't really much you can do. 

Current privacy laws in the EU also don't help with fighting terrorism. But the real reason why attacks mainly occur in Europe is because Europe is weak, unwilling to takw harsh measures againat terrorism and quite pathetic even. All the terrorists from Paris to London where known by the police some where even under investigation. Yet they could travel to Syria and back freely and Europe isn't changing a thing and hopes these attacks just stop for some reason. There is a reason why terrorism in the US is a lit rarer than in Europe.

 

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-europe-left-itself-open-to-terrorism

Islamic terrorism is rarer in the US. Right wing terrorism is your problem at the moment, we've only had one notable instance of right wing terrorism last year when an mp was killed.

Also the UK has it's own privacy laws, we're very unique in that way from the other EU countries. Our government got caught spying on us, then made it legal to exonerate themselves. Putting the UK in with your Europe narrative doesn't really work that way. 



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Qwark said:

Current privacy laws in the EU also don't help with fighting terrorism. But the real reason why attacks mainly occur in Europe is because Europe is weak, unwilling to takw harsh measures againat terrorism and quite pathetic even. All the terrorists from Paris to London where known by the police some where even under investigation. Yet they could travel to Syria and back freely and Europe isn't changing a thing and hopes these attacks just stop for some reason. There is a reason why terrorism in the US is a lit rarer than in Europe.

 

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-europe-left-itself-open-to-terrorism

Islamic terrorism is rarer in the US. Right wing terrorism is your problem at the moment, we've only had one notable instance of right wing terrorism last year when an mp was killed.

Also the UK has it's own privacy laws, we're very unique in that way from the other EU countries. Our government got caught spying on us, then made it legal to exonerate themselves. Putting the UK in with your Europe narrative doesn't really work that way. 

How is right wing terrorism the biggest problem in continental Europe. They don't kill nearly as many people as right wing terrorist, except for Breivik. In the US terrorism as a whole isn't much of an issue. Which is surprising since you can buy a gun anywhere. The extreme right is mostly a dog that barks but doesn't bite in Europe. Islamic terrorists however kill plenty of people. The way I see it America is way stronger in the security department than Europe. I would very much doubt this attack would have occurred in the US if they had the same intell as Great Britain.



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Eagle367 said:
Locknuts said:

Correct. Islam is the problem, not immigration.

In France, Germany and Sweden though, immigration is definitely part of the problem.

Ignorance is the problem. People who are ignorant are easily brainwashed by scum like Daesh I mean the leaders of Daesh will never take part on a suicide attack they want power and their own regime to be set up in the middle easy so they will use ignorant people around the world to carry out attacks. Ignorance of the true meaning of Islam and ignorance of who and what to see on the internet and who and what to believe will lead to these attacks. Daesh is like a drug to these people people who always had something wrong with them and then this terrorist organization makes them feel special and give them a 'purpose' a clearly deranged and disgustingly scummy purpose but a purpose nonetheless. If these people were properly trained in understanding their religion these attacks would never happen

So what does Daesh do that the perfect example prophet Mohammed didn't do or wouldn't approve of?



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Qwark said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Islamic terrorism is rarer in the US. Right wing terrorism is your problem at the moment, we've only had one notable instance of right wing terrorism last year when an mp was killed.

Also the UK has it's own privacy laws, we're very unique in that way from the other EU countries. Our government got caught spying on us, then made it legal to exonerate themselves. Putting the UK in with your Europe narrative doesn't really work that way. 

How is right wing terrorism the biggest problem in continental Europe. They don't kill nearly as many people as right wing terrorist, except for Breivik. In the US terrorism as a whole isn't much of an issue. Which is surprising since you can buy a gun anywhere. The extreme right is mostly a dog that barks but doesn't bite in Europe. Islamic terrorists however kill plenty of people. The way I see it America is way stronger in the security department than Europe. I would very much doubt this attack would have occurred in the US if they had the same intell as Great Britain.

My bad I assumed you were in America from your previous posts.  I mean right wing terrorism is a bigger problem in the US than islamic terrorism.



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It's honestly getting to the point where I don't want to visit Europe anymore..



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Qwark said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Islamic terrorism is rarer in the US. Right wing terrorism is your problem at the moment, we've only had one notable instance of right wing terrorism last year when an mp was killed.

Also the UK has it's own privacy laws, we're very unique in that way from the other EU countries. Our government got caught spying on us, then made it legal to exonerate themselves. Putting the UK in with your Europe narrative doesn't really work that way. 

How is right wing terrorism the biggest problem in continental Europe. They don't kill nearly as many people as right wing terrorist, except for Breivik. In the US terrorism as a whole isn't much of an issue. Which is surprising since you can buy a gun anywhere. The extreme right is mostly a dog that barks but doesn't bite in Europe. Islamic terrorists however kill plenty of people. The way I see it America is way stronger in the security department than Europe. I would very much doubt this attack would have occurred in the US if they had the same intell as Great Britain.

 

 

 

I'm not defending islamic terror, but I think I made my point. (i can add more to this list)

there are crazies on the right side too.

(edit cause some people need it)



deskpro2k3 said:
Qwark said:

How is right wing terrorism the biggest problem in continental Europe. They don't kill nearly as many people as right wing terrorist, except for Breivik. In the US terrorism as a whole isn't much of an issue. Which is surprising since you can buy a gun anywhere. The extreme right is mostly a dog that barks but doesn't bite in Europe. Islamic terrorists however kill plenty of people. The way I see it America is way stronger in the security department than Europe. I would very much doubt this attack would have occurred in the US if they had the same intell as Great Britain.

 

 

 

I'm not defending islamic terror, but I think I made my point. (i can add more to this list)

Actually, what is your point? Yes there may be a few retards that commit mass-murders in the name of Christianity but that doesn’t changes the fact that Christianity has reformed and it doesn’t promote killing. On the other hand Islam hasn’t reformed and many imams promote killing of innocents.

Also, these retards that have committed murder in the name of Christianity or white power are an internal Western problem, as most of the West is Christian, radical Islam committing mass murder in the West and other Christian countries (Russia) is an external threat.



deskpro2k3 said:
Qwark said:

How is right wing terrorism the biggest problem in continental Europe. They don't kill nearly as many people as right wing terrorist, except for Breivik. In the US terrorism as a whole isn't much of an issue. Which is surprising since you can buy a gun anywhere. The extreme right is mostly a dog that barks but doesn't bite in Europe. Islamic terrorists however kill plenty of people. The way I see it America is way stronger in the security department than Europe. I would very much doubt this attack would have occurred in the US if they had the same intell as Great Britain.

 

I'm not defending islamic terror, but I think I made my point. (i can add more to this list)

Ok, but how many people did this in the name of their religion, (screming "Jesus is great!" "This is for God and the Holy Spirit!" Etc..) right before commiting the attacks or killing themselves.

Not that I'm defending Christianity. I'm agnostic, and critical of all religion equally, including Christianity.. The thing I don't get is that so many seem so eager to shit on Christianity while Islam for some reason always seems to get a free pass - especially considering the track record of many Muslims in recent polls showing that they see women as second class citizens and a good chunk actually see homosexuality as a punishable sin, and with the several recent terror attacks (and yes I realise actual attacks and violence are obviously just fringe extremists that twist their teachings to justify their violence) But Islam must have SOMETHING to do with this, right? I'm not arguing against the existance of Islam or anything crazy like that obviously, but perhaps a reformation is needed, similar to what Christianity went through 100's of years ago, so that a more progressive, tolerant Islam can emerge.



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