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PieToast said:
WolfpackN64 said:

The people of Saudi Arabia have it hard, but that is of no concern to the Saud's ruling family, as long as they have money, what gives?

Because they act like the country is their family business. They could have built three Dubais so it's frustrating to see all that money spent on the military when the country was in recession just last year. 

They had to pay that much money to keep Iran prisoned. The deal went like this:

"You want the USA to stay mad at Iran for bullshit reasons for another decade? buy tons of weapons from us and not from anyone else!"

"We'll do! Slap Iran with more sanctions and invade them whenever possible please!"

For all the crap Trump gave Obama for being soft on the gulf states, it seems Trump is adopting a much softer approach. Fuck that. 



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Bandorr said:

When he isn't president - constantly insult Obama about anything and everything.  When president copy Obama.

"copy Obama" huh? well, he does anything he critizied Obama for, but he also seems to be dead set on getting rid of any legilature/initiative the Obamas were championing



WolfpackN64 said:
The USA funding terrorists and murderers. Not much has changed except Trump doesn't even apply the "human rights talk" coat of paint.

Well, they're selling them things in exchange for money. I guess funding can refer to goods, but they're not being given away.



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vivster said:

But he didn't bow to them?



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You can also tell how much Melania loathes Donald, lol

And now this one

The whole Trump facade is fake as fuck. 



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outlawauron said:
WolfpackN64 said:
The USA funding terrorists and murderers. Not much has changed except Trump doesn't even apply the "human rights talk" coat of paint.

Well, they're selling them things in exchange for money. I guess funding can refer to goods, but they're not being given away.

Do you really think these weapons stay in Saudi hands? FN (our Belgian national weapons company) sold firearms to the Saudi's. After a few months, reports started coming in that Al Nusra had aquired weapons from a recent shipment. It's quite clear the US keeps the Saudi regima afloat (as do many other countries), the Saudi's happily resell these weapons to terrorists.



I really, really do not want to waste a lot of time on Donald Trump's Saudi Arabian visit; however, for the record, which is still important, it was a nightmare.

The images could not have been more ghastly.

The substance could not have been more repulsive.

The nation-to-nation exchange could not have been more shameful: Yet another American president, a decade and a half after 9/11, lying to himself and the entire world to declare that Islam is wonderful, it's just extremism that's a mortal threat, in exchange for hundreds of millions of Saudi petrodollars in arms deals. The $100 million pledged by Saudi Arabia and the UAE to "empower women entrepreneurs" through a World Bank "initiative" (slush fund?) Ivanka Trump is associated with was particularly ugly. It turned the president's daughter into a pitchwoman for these very nations whose Islamic laws and culture recognize women as chattel. How they must have rolled on the tent floor after the pathetic American delegation was en route to Israel, a nation Saudi Arabia does not recognize.

When Donald Trump came along, a national figure for the first time at least signalling the truth about Islam, citing the terrifying polling showing the support of American Muslims for sharia, later boldly articulating the perils of the spread of sharia (Islamic law) in this country through Islamic immigration (which he and, overwhelmingly, his primary voters wanted to halt), he burst through the lockdown on honest talk of Islam that the Establishment had enforced ever since 19 Muslims (15 Saudis) on the jihad took down the Twin Towers on 9/11. With such a president, things might have gone very differently ... and so long as Trump remains in office, it is at least conceivable that they still might.

But such a turnabout would require fundamental changes inside the White House itself -- and inside Trump himself.

There is a Twilight Zone aspect to the last several months, which already feel like an eternity.

Like other supernatural phenomena, these months contain a mystery:

How did they rewire the Donald Trump we Deplorables voted for?

http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3560/The-Road-to-Riyadh.aspx



It is amusing to see Trump supporters being so conflicted on this. They hated/hate Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia loves Trump and they're very happy Obama's reign is over, he was actually strict on them and criticized them on many things.



Talal said:

It is amusing to see Trump supporters being so conflicted on this. They hated/hate Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia loves Trump and they're very happy Obama's reign is over, he was actually strict on them and criticized them on many things.

Trump is nothing different in this regard. The only thing he is going to really change is gutting environmental protections and cutting taxes on very, very wealthy people. 

Trump's son-in-law even made sure the Saudi's got a better deal on their $100 billion arms pact, lol. His "tough talk" on Saudi Arabia was all bluster. It's quite likely Trump's easier on SA than Obama was, Obama would not bite when they tried to get him to send ground troops into Syria, which infuriated them. 



Bad taste....With Obama the relations were cold and they feared that Hilary would be elected but Trump is a godgift... Saudi's are known for having supported terrorist groups like ISIS and that same group has killed US citizens and soldiers...