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potato_hamster said:
SpokenTruth said:

Because holy hell, dude.  That doesn't need explaining it's so obvious.

Going back to your PS4 Pro example, are people rebuying PS4 games for PS4 Pro?

So you're going to use an exmaple of two systems that play the same discs as reasons why Nintendo won't make two systems that play two seperate discs.

Hey, quick question. Why doesn't the Switch accept a cartridge exactly the same size as the 3DS, and offer a means of backwards compatiblity with DS/3DS games? Let me answer that for you. Because not nearly as many people would be buying Mario Kart 8 deluxe for their Switch if they could buy Mario Kart 7 for and get a very similar game at a fraction of the price. Nintendo has a whole library of games that will make fairly easy ports that they can sell you all over again, so why wouldn't they?

Word is the main reason that Nintendo discontinued the NES Classic was because it was devaluing the games on the Virtual Console, which will soon be launching on the Switch. It's hard to convince people to pay $5 for SMB3 when it has a relative value of less than $2 on the NES classic.

It's all about the benjamins, make no mistake about it.

Um... are you sure it's got nothing to do with the fact that the last time I checked the Switch didn't have two screens...?



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Miyamotoo said:

Oh, and who the hell is going to buy a "portable" Switch and rebuy half their Switch games for it?

You. You'll buy a portable Switch and rebuy half your Switch games for it. Heck you already bought a semi-portable Wii U and have or will re-buy half of your Wii U games for it in some form or another, so what's the difference?



Green098 said:
potato_hamster said:

So you're going to use an exmaple of two systems that play the same discs as reasons why Nintendo won't make two systems that play two seperate discs.

Hey, quick question. Why doesn't the Switch accept a cartridge exactly the same size as the 3DS, and offer a means of backwards compatiblity with DS/3DS games? Let me answer that for you. Because not nearly as many people would be buying Mario Kart 8 deluxe for their Switch if they could buy Mario Kart 7 for and get a very similar game at a fraction of the price. Nintendo has a whole library of games that will make fairly easy ports that they can sell you all over again, so why wouldn't they?

Word is the main reason that Nintendo discontinued the NES Classic was because it was devaluing the games on the Virtual Console, which will soon be launching on the Switch. It's hard to convince people to pay $5 for SMB3 when it has a relative value of less than $2 on the NES classic.

It's all about the benjamins, make no mistake about it.

Because the last time I checked the Switch didn't have two screens.

lol the native resolution of the Switch screen would easily allow you to stack the two 3DS screens on top of one another in the single Switch screen with zero loss in quality with room to spare.



potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:

iOS is one platform, 3DS is one platform and Wii U was another platform, they were not same platform, same goes for Wii and DS, GC and GBA, they are difrent platforms, while iOS is one platform.

Wii U has failed hard and wasnt exactly brand new platform like Switch, Wii U was more evolution of Wii platform not brand new platform. Switch is brand new platform in any sense (brand, concept, tech, architecture..). Actually totaly opposite, development and support struggles they had with Wii U and 3DS (two difrent platforms) maid them to change their hardware philosophy, during Wii U and 3DS they start talk about new approach, "need for having platform like iOS or Android", during Wii U and 3DS they admit they can't any more support effectively two different platforms, during 3DS and Wii U they merged their handheld and home console hardware division, and handheld and home console software divisions...

Nobady talks about one deviace, but about more iterations of hardware that will be part of same platform. And that's actually very obvious, you from some reason don't want to see that, same like you didnt want to see that NX will be hybrid.

Lies. You were the one saying that the NX was going to be multiple form factors that played the same games, including a home console, a portable console, a tablet etc. I was the one saying it was one device. Of course, this was because I had actually seen the dev kit and knew what was coming, so there's that.

Not true. I were always saying that they are two possibilities for NX, NX handheld and NX home console that plays same games or hybrid of home console and handheld. Buy time its was more and more obvious that NX will be hybrid (especially after EG report), so I complete abandoned idea NX handheld and NX home console. Actually me and Soundwave are one of 1st on this site who accepted idea of hybrid concept and talking how that totaly make sense.

 

 

potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:

Oh, and who the hell is going to buy a "portable" Switch and rebuy half their Switch games for it?

You. You'll buy a portable Switch and rebuy half your Switch games for it. Heck you already bought a semi-portable Wii U and have or will re-buy half of your Wii U games for it in some form or another, so what's the difference?

That wasnt my post but actually failed reply.



Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:

Lies. You were the one saying that the NX was going to be multiple form factors that played the same games, including a home console, a portable console, a tablet etc. I was the one saying it was one device. Of course, this was because I had actually seen the dev kit and knew what was coming, so there's that.

Not true. I were always saying that they are two possibilities for NX, NX handheld and NX home console that plays same games or hybrid of home console and handheld. Buy time its was more and more obvious that NX will be hybrid (especially after EG report), so I complete abandoned idea NX handheld and NX home console. Actually me and Soundwave are one of 1st on this site who accepted idea of hybrid concept and talking how that totaly make sense.

 

Ohh come on man. I was looking at the thing the EG report was leaked about and you're going to say I didn't nail this thing? (I know, kinda cheating) We actually still do not know if this device is actually a "hybrid" console. IF Nintendo comes out with a non-switch compatible portable console, then the Switch is definitely, definitely not a "hybrid".

 

Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:

You. You'll buy a portable Switch and rebuy half your Switch games for it. Heck you already bought a semi-portable Wii U and have or will re-buy half of your Wii U games for it in some form or another, so what's the difference?

That wasnt my post but actually failed reply.

My bad! Sorry about that.



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potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:

Not true. I were always saying that they are two possibilities for NX, NX handheld and NX home console that plays same games or hybrid of home console and handheld. Buy time its was more and more obvious that NX will be hybrid (especially after EG report), so I complete abandoned idea NX handheld and NX home console. Actually me and Soundwave are one of 1st on this site who accepted idea of hybrid concept and talking how that totaly make sense.

 

Ohh come on man. I was looking at the thing the EG report was leaked about and you're going to say I didn't nail this thing? (I know, kinda cheating) We actually still do not know if this device is actually a "hybrid" console. IF Nintendo comes out with a non-switch compatible portable console, then the Switch is definitely, definitely not a "hybrid".

 

Miyamotoo said:

That wasnt my post but actually failed reply.

My bad! Sorry about that.

Like I wrote, from Iwata quotes and Nintendo plans about new platform/NX, it was obvous that Nintendo will do handheld and NX home console that plays same games, or hybrid of home console and handheld, and actualy they done one of those thing. Now for me it's very obvious that Switch will have multiple iteration of Switch and Switch addons, and that no way they will release separate platform that plays different games. You disagree, time will tell who is right.



potato_hamster said:
Green098 said:

Because the last time I checked the Switch didn't have two screens.

lol the native resolution of the Switch screen would easily allow you to stack the two 3DS screens on top of one another in the single Switch screen with zero loss in quality with room to spare.

Yes because that sounds like a perfect solution, but then there is still the problem of not being able to play most of the games in homeconsole mode since you have no access to the touchscreen, there is also no resistive touch screen either which is required for most of the games which require percise accuracy, then a lot of other problems like no camera and no mic.



Nogamez said:
Who the fuck are you to judge consoles success?

I'm a gamer like most people on this site.  I judge whether I like a game or dislike a game.  I judge whether I like a console or don't.  What some people view as success others see a failure and vice versa.  I didn't mean to trigger you, but we all judge this or that everyday and sometimes people get butthurt.  Again I'm just a gamer voicing opinions.  



...to avoid getting banned for inactivity, I may have to resort to comments that are of a lower overall quality and or beneath my moral standards.

potato_hamster said:

Lies. You were the one saying that the NX was going to be multiple form factors that played the same games, including a home console, a portable console, a tablet etc. I was the one saying it was one device. Of course, this was because I had actually seen the dev kit and knew what was coming, so there's that.

 

potato_hamster said:

Ohh come on man. I was looking at the thing the EG report was leaked about and you're going to say I didn't nail this thing? (I know, kinda cheating) We actually still do not know if this device is actually a "hybrid" console. IF Nintendo comes out with a non-switch compatible portable console, then the Switch is definitely, definitely not a "hybrid".

So you called the hybrid until a new console comes out making Switch no longer a hybrid? Make your mind up.

I'm starting to reconsider your extra non-Switch compatible portable. Obviously the idea itself is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard but I'm warming to the 'give Nintendo more money' part.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Green098 said:
potato_hamster said:

lol the native resolution of the Switch screen would easily allow you to stack the two 3DS screens on top of one another in the single Switch screen with zero loss in quality with room to spare.

Yes because that sounds like a perfect solution, but then there is still the problem of not being able to play most of the games in homeconsole mode since you have no access to the touchscreen, there is also no resistive touch screen either which is required for most of the games which require percise accuracy, then a lot of other problems like no camera and no mic.

So limit the use of those games to only work in handheld mode, and write some type of touch screen signal translator that can accomodate the differences in touch screens. Make games that require microphones or cameras incompatible, that's just a small fraction of the games.  Sure, it's not a perfect solution, but I bet it would mean a whole lot to the tens of millions of 3DS owners that would be able to afford a Switch if they could trade/sell their 3DS in and still play all of their 3DS games. It would have been a very consumer friendly move by Nintendo, but they chose not to.

Instead, Nintendo will make minor mofications to those games, put them in a different shaped cartridge, and sell them to gamers again for $40-$50, or better yet, put them on the virtual console and make even higher margins on those game, and still charge gamers for it all over again.