If there was actually proof this was a positive option (please don't spit bible verses or platitudes at me) then I'd agree.  But, since there isn't, we should focus on treatments that have a track record of success.  

There is a big difference between saying something like "look into the benefits of religion" or "if you are religious talk to your rabbi, imam, priest etc", and saying "why not give your life to Jesus".

The former is presenting religion as an option.  The other is trying to (poorly) sell your religion to incredibly vulnerable people.  It's kind of predatory.

Oh.  I'm sorry for saying something negative about Jesus in response to a video promoting Jesus.  How terrible of me.

What is your illness?

I agree, it's definitely not healthy to let religion play a too important role in your life. To many people can't think for themselves anymore because they prefer religion over common sense.

What I was trying to say with my post, is that people can find some extra help in religion.
I don't know what the OP said in his video, because tbh I didn't feel like watching something sad (sorry). But I assumed he was talking about suicide in general, and how religion helped him staying strong.

1 and a half years and you consider suicide?

Would legit love to see your reaction to my Jan after 9 years to find out someone else was at home while I was out at work.

My reaction.... Got my stuff, moved out, move on, fuck people who have no respect for themselves or others, don't let um get to you, I'm afraid based on the comments I didn't watch your video as I believe it to be about looking to faith for help and while I appreciate you found solace there I needed no such thing having friends and family support was all I needed.... until march, then all I needed was the Switch and Zelda.

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Wish to fuck the shitty ore in Zelda wasn't called Amber though.... gets me every shit rock I overturn lol.

I think the most important thing is talking to someone you trust, be open about your problems, and try to solve them. Human is a social animal, being with people you trust is the way to have a good mind health. Medication comes aftwerwards if this fails hard, but always as a final choice. I'

My thought as well. This might not for everyone, but I know from personal experience just how much faith can help in the healing process.

I had no intentions to quote any Bible verses. But the irony of your response as well as your original post is that Jesus spoke of life, love, internal peace, hope, community, friendship, strength, and any other positive factors that validates life. So the living people you see around you is proof of all of that. And I'll be the first to say that no one should be forced to believe in something they don't want to believe in. But it must be reiterated that never impose personal ideology over life. In fact, Jesus has been the catalyst for many in finding fulfillment in life. If you deny the option to others, that all you doing it's putting yourself before them.

I still not belive in god or jesus, and my best friend just die per suicide 6 days ago, but even if i don't trust, i know religion can save some life, so its good !

I said don't spit bible verses or platitudes.  To your credit, you didn't quote bible verses, but you hit hard with the platitudes.  You're being very selective on the parts of the bible you want to consider.  It's not all love and peace.  There's a lot in there there that I don't think would benefit a suicidal person.  Christianity has been the catalyst for a lot of things.  Not all of them good.

As for putting myself before others, I'm really confused by that.  I'm not sure how I'm denying anyone the right to do anything, or that I even could.  But, did you actually listen to the video?  Cause it was not saying that religion is one possible option for recovery, which I wouldn't really object to, if it was presented after suggesting medical help.  It isn't even saying that Jesus loves you and if you pray to him he'll help you, which is something I'd have a slight issue with.  It didn't say anything about religion in general or Jesus in particular helping the person feel better in any way.  

What it said was that if you are suicidal, you should stick around so that Jesus can use you to spread Christianity.  I believe the specific terminology was to let Jesus use you.  Not help you, not heal you, not save you.  Use you.  Viewing someone who is suicidal as a tool to spread your beliefs... well that's kind of icky.

I'm not too attached to this life but suicide is a drag. Why would I want to harm myself in any way. But I would prefer to die naturally at a younger age because I don't know why humans want to live forever. If at any point I am stuck with living forever or for a really really really long time I would be trying out ways to kill myself but until then I patiently live my life until hopefully I die at a sweet spot of an age